Whilst I respect the right of Leeds fans to be confident of a win against us on Saturday if your team plays to form and strength, I find the pompous rubbishing by some Leeds fans of Hull KR and their chances in this one-off game, extremely disrespectful and lacking grace.

There's no place for such patronising arrogance in any sport and certainly not in Rugby League. Heaven only knows, sporting history is littered with numerous examples of people gassing out their gobs only to have their words shoved down their throats following an upset.

Terms like smash them, walk all over us and it's only Hull KR and drop in quality may come back to bite you in the bum.

My daughter will be at the final and being Leeds born is a passionate Rhinos fan. Along with me, she has witnessed all the Leeds losses at the new Wembley as well as the euphoria of last year's win. Justifiably she expects Leeds to win, but has seen enough of Hull KR this year to know that on their day, they can really turn it on.

So to those arrogant Rhinos fans on here who are predicting a blow out in your favour on Saturday, I'll politely remind you of your history of poor performances in key Wembley games. I hope this is sufficient to give those that disrespect us the necessary reality check and that like Wigan and Warrington in previous rounds you disrespect Hull KR at your peril. Sermon over.

Good posting, fair comment.

As said earlier fair comment .I am very nervous about this final ,on form of course Leeds should win ,but I accept they could lose .Leeds are also on a winning run and A they say every win is a game nearer to a loss..I think Leeds will win ,but let's keep our feet on the ground

Completely agree. Most of those writing Hull KR off were writing Leeds' season off not that long ago



I'm confident but it's a final so anything can happen. If Hull come out all guns blazing and we're off our game even slightly (like we were against Cas a few weeks ago) then anything could happen.

Looking forward to it though, should be a great game and hope that long drive home is a happy one!!!

I've watched Leeds fro nigh on 30 years now, and even with all we've won over the last decade or so, I have still to go into one final thinking we will win.

Was not aware many fans were writing them off, ever body is well aware it could go either way. But for the record Leeds will win will some to spare hull kr will not win.

I doubt every single HKR fan has/is going to give Halifax and Sheffield the 'respect they deserve' when they did/it comes time to, play them in the Middle 8's. I'm sure nearly every HKR fan entered the Middle 8's extremely confident that they'd be coming back up......is that disrespectful to those other clubs in that competition that HKR fans thought that?

As long as the Leeds players are reasonably cautious and patient in their approach to the final, it doesn't matter one iota what rash predictions fans make. It's just noise. Nothing to get so pompous about.

Even before the London game?

I was very confident we would win but as we fell behind I thought "oh no, here we go again, choke"

Guys. It should be a great final and hopefully a fine spectacle. Like Rhinos fans, Hull KR fans are beyond passionate and loyal.

You've every right to be confident of a Leeds victory as your team has class, flair and consistency. Despite this, you can be beaten.

However, to clarify my earlier post. I isolated in para 3 some of the disrespectful and ungracious (imo) comments about Hull KR as your opposition made by a few of the posters on here. I note that such rhetoric was not used by your coach, captain and some of your players at the Press Conference in Donny earlier today.

One-off games can be great levellers. I was also there in 2005 In Cardiff supporting the Rhinos against the dark side and you let me down then.

Given "my" current run of 6 straight cup final defeats and a "New" Wembley record of no wins for my team in 6 visits, I take nothing for granted.

I don't remember how I felt before hand, but after ten minutes, I was in despair. Luckily, one of our party said 'FFS, it's only been ten minutes!'.

Wise words, which I try (and fail) to remember.

I know what you mean. It wasn't until the manner of Barrie's try that a lot of fans started to realise it was going to be our day.

Nearly joined the Robins that season (1985/6) but chose to reunite with Peter Fox at Leeds instead and led from the front on an epic seven game Challenge Cup run that ended with a semi final defeat to Saturday's worthy opponents.

IIRC he eventually retired at 45 having never played in a CC Final.

Do it for the 'Jeffasaurus'

Leeds could lift the trophy this season with a fourth victory - haven't checked but I imagine that would be a first.

I agree regarding your point about our opposition within the qualifiers, but what you have to remember is that since we beat Warrington in the semis we have always had the Cup final in our mind. And the 3 wins we have secured in the qualifiers was due to playing defensive rugby and grinding out a win with a alternating team selection that always had one eye on the cup final ......Our team's main goal this year was to reach the CC final and we did so by raising the standard of our defense and attack against top Super league sides in these one off games, we did it once and we can do it again. Also, we all remember that time when Leeds finally reached the Cup Final after many years to put to bed their CC hoodoo and turned out a performance that wasn't fitting of the occasion and the magnitude of sending their senior players off with a winners medal that they rightly deserved ......Anything can happen within a one off game!

And as for the rugby that Leeds are currently playing, I must admit it is the best rugby I've seen since the old days and, in my opinion, they are without a doubt the best and most entertaining side within the game at the moment and a joy to watch, but Aiton at dummy half has been a major part of this in blowing teams off the park within the first 20 minutes through his runs and switching of play. He causes confusion within the defensive line and consequent offloads are almost certainly a result of this, but he is not playing and instead Leeds will have a Hooker on cup final day who is more structured and less likely to cause confusion within the defensive line .....All these factors will play their part on Cup Final day!

Will Leeds freeze in knowing that they are the overwhelming favourites? ......Will Hull KR freeze by being overcome by the occasion? ......Will Leeds blow Hull KR off the park with their expansive rugby? ......Will the focus and determination of Hull KR within the CC competition win through in the end and bring silverware to their club? ......Will the absence of Aiton effect the manner in which Leeds play? ......Will playing an unfit Kelly be Hull KR's saviour or their weakness? ......So many questions!

The only certain answer is to the question "Will the fans of Leeds and Hull KR enjoy their day out, love each other and paint our capital with the colours of Red, White, Blue and Yellow?" ......Damn right they will!!!! ......See you there, People!!!!

I'm a 'glass half full' person when it comes to specific games - especially finals. I shall expect the worst and hope for the best. When I used to attend games live it got to the point that I'd think we'd still lose unless it got to the point where it was physically impossible. Like 30 points up with 2 minutes to go. Its weird, as a kid I believed we could and should win every game, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

We've had a few CC disappointments...which one is this a reference to?

think he means the cas game. it wasn't a fluid exciting display but it was a hugely professional display in which the game plan was executed to perfection. we dominated the game from start to finish. i'll take that on saturday

Does anyone know what time the coaches are leaving HQ?

Hull KR are having a homecoming irrespective of result on Sunday. Leeds are only having one if they win.

An insight into the psyche of both organisations?

Perhaps, but Leeds used to do the same.

7.30am isn't it? Or you can get the National Express from town at 8.30am. I have learnt from my error last year when I lived 5mins from the coach station yet booked on the club coach as I didn't know about the National Express option when booking!

Be careful you don't make any kind of noise on either form of coach. Folk don't like it.

2 of the most "joyless" experiences I have ever had travelling to games.

Oh you should have tried coming home on the National Express after the game last year.

Couple (both Leeds fans) had a blazing row because she was being drunk, loud and annoying and he was getting fed up with it. Finished with him asking the coach driver to pull over in St John's Wood, getting off and making his ow way home.

We then had four hours of her leaving him tearful voice mails (at the top of her voice, obviously), telling the driver that she needed to stop for a wee at every service station on the M1 and generally being an absolute pain the backside to everyone else on board. All because neither of them could handle their drink and in the process managed to spoil it for everyone else.

I'll swap you a "joyless" experience for that any day of the week.