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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Ratchford? He was very poor for a few of our tries that Hardaker on the other hand would've stopped easily. I like Ratchford but a FB he ain't. In fact what is his best position as The Messiah has bumped around one of his best players for a few years now.....FB? Centre? HB? Loose? Will probably play all 4 positions in the next four weeks going on previous evidence.'"
He's another victim of Tony Smith's tinkering IMO, much like Chris Bridge. Ratchford is a half-back, who fell foul of the fad for moving halves to play at full-back and has found every other Tom, Dick and Harry getting a shot at 6 ahead of him. I'd pair him with Sandow in the halves next year, tell him the shirt is his and let him play.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Ratchford looked good because he was involved a lot defensively. He was pretty awful for Hardaker's first both in angle and contact, and didn't cover himself in glory for his second either.'"
I agree Hardaker did him a couple of times. He also stopped I think 5? Including a couple of very good one-on-ones vs Watkins where you'd have backed Kallum. And he didn't hide. You'd probably take 5 out of 7 as a ratio for full-backs stopping clean breaks, but you'd look at the defence in front of him for allowing so many chances in the first place.
He's a good player, Ratchford. I'm not saying he's up to Hardaker's standard but he was Wire's best on the night imo despite getting done a couple of times.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"
Hardaker obviously MoM (though he should have passed for his disallowed try). Peacock, Cuthbertson excellent and Garbutt too. Sinfield was very good, which we needed because McGuire was off his game.'"
Yet McGuire still managed to get the MOM (not from Sky obviously, the in house one)
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| Quote ="Claypitrhino"Yet McGuire still managed to get the MOM (not from Sky obviously, the in house one)'"
Really? That's bizarre.
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| Can only recall Ratchford stopping one really when Warkins eventually scored after his initial break was stopped. That was frustrating that Watkins didn't really put his foot down and back himself (and he did similar in the second half when he could've gone for it). He also did the same vs Saints away when he didn't put his foot down for the corner when he could've made it.....it did go unnoticed though because Sutcliffe then kicked to the corner for Handley to score.
Kallum, you get a chance, pin your ears back.
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| Aiton was superb until his injury, set the tone
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| Quote ="Claypitrhino"Yet McGuire still managed to get the MOM (not from Sky obviously, the in house one)'"
Well the announcement over the tannoy just as Leeds were preparing to drop out gave it to Hardaker.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Well the announcement over the tannoy just as Leeds were preparing to drop out gave it to Hardaker.'"
The announcement over the tannoy said Number 6 Danny McGuire
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| It said Hardaker as MOM
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| Heard it on sky Hardaker announced just before he dropped out
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| did McGuire get taken off then? (I don't recall him being taken off, there was definitely a 6 Danny McGuire close to the end.
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| That was as good as we have been for a long long time. We need to do the same to wigan next week although aiton will be hard to repalce as hes been at the heart of our front foot play
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| Quote ="Claypitrhino"did McGuire get taken off then? (I don't recall him being taken off, there was definitely a 6 Danny McGuire close to the end.'"
Yeah subbed him off with several minutes to go....for Ablett such was our ease.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Can only recall Ratchford stopping one really when Warkins eventually scored after his initial break was stopped. That was frustrating that Watkins didn't really put his foot down and back himself (and he did similar in the second half when he could've gone for it). He also did the same vs Saints away when he didn't put his foot down for the corner when he could've made it.....it did go unnoticed though because Sutcliffe then kicked to the corner for Handley to score.
Kallum, you get a chance, pin your ears back.'"
Have to agree....no doubt he is a class act, but the way he stops is bizarre !!!!
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yeah subbed him off with several minutes to go....for Ablett such was our ease.'"
Wires crossed then, apologies, I was starting to worry myself then.
Most pleasing for me this evening was watching Garbutt run the ball in, left nothing to the imagination and looked like he put his all into every run, brilliant.
Also I hope the kids okay from half time, sad to see.
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| What happened at half time ? Injury to to one of the kids playing ?
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"What happened at half time ? Injury to to one of the kids playing ?'"
Yeah got took out on the spine board after some lengthy treatment, looked like he was being taken care of well though, plenty of paramedics and physios there to assist.
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"What happened at half time ? Injury to to one of the kids playing ?'"
Yes but Leeds twitter feed says whilst he has been taken to hospital it is only precautionary and it sounds like he'll be ok hopefully.
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| Salford fan here in peace. Just wanted to add my applause for the marvellous off the cuff style of RL played tonight. A joy to watch instead of the overcoached `structured`plans from Wanes World Wigan. Keep it going.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Yes but Leeds twitter feed says whilst he has been taken to hospital it is only precautionary and it sounds like he'll be ok hopefully.'"
Good to hear because it looked quite serious at one point.
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| how good was james child last night? unfussy and let the game flow.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"how good was james child last night? unfussy and let the game flow.
lets hope he continues in that vein'"
He's been impressive in last few games he's been in charge of
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| Quote ="craigizzard"I thought we were good. The two tries we conceded were only tries because Wire have the fastest player in the league on their wing. Any other player our cover would have stopped them short.
Hardaker obviously MoM (though he should have passed for his disallowed try). Peacock, Cuthbertson excellent and Garbutt too. Sinfield was very good, which we needed because McGuire was off his game.
Nice to see McDermott going back into the old Bulls playbook for the old Lowes/Fielden/Paul inside-outside breaking up the middle at the play-the-ball. Good to be on the right side of that after all these years.
Wire were terrible except for Ratchford who saved them from shipping 80 and also did really well for their second try.'"
Penny's second try was set by a superb short pass from Sandow and a very good pass on the run from Ratchford. The first was a good run from Clarke through 3 Leeds tacklers. It is like saying the first Leeds try had nothing to do with Aiton's run.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Penny's second try was set by a superb short pass from Sandow and a very good pass on the run from Ratchford. The first was a good run from Clarke through 3 Leeds tacklers. It is like saying the first Leeds try had nothing to do with Aiton's run.'"
They were good moves and good tries. But they wouldn't have been tries against the Leeds cover defence if any other player in the league other than Penny (maybe Dixon) was on the end of them because they needed that speed not to be tackled by Hall (first try) or Briscoe (second try).
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