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| Quote ="craigizzard"McDermott has actually used his subs well. None of the props have been overplayed and all have stayed fresh.'"
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| Quote ="craigizzard"McDermott has actually used his subs well. None of the props have been overplayed and all have stayed fresh.'"
He always does when the game and scoreline is going well. It's only when we are behind he doesn't use his subs....which is ironic as we are usually behind because we've been poor and had to do too much defending.
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| All the Leeds pack was superb, and to perform as they did without Stevie Ward makes it even more impressive.
We had some real impact off the bench as well from all 4 subs, even the much maligned Rob Burrow was superb, I thought we battered them, it was like Ivan Drago vs Apollo Creed at times
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| What a strange game, did not think we were great but how bad were Saints! Luke Walsh was an embarrassment. Hope Wards injury is not as bad as it looked and Zak's going to get a ban so Thursday definitely going to be much much tougher assignment.
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| Loiner81.....has anyone asked you about that bet tonight?
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| I thought Burrow was, for want of a better word, chaotic. Our forwards don't seem to know how to run off him. If Aiton and Burrow are on the pitch at the same time, Aiton has to be the one to go to dummy half. He is superb at engaging the markers.
jimmy keinhorst is looking more and more like a quality SL player with the more game time he gets. Ash Handley, well, I was calling for him to be dropped not so long ago. He's showed strength in character to play himself out of a a run of poor form. Looked quality tonight!
Garbutt looked hungry for work. Very promising! And Kylie? He's a wrecking ball. One of his best performances for us tonight. Loved the show and go in the first half. Also, McGuires talent to get Hall one on one with his opposite winger is quality, only ever going to be one winner.
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| Quote ="Les Norton"I thought Burrow was, for want of a better word, chaotic. Our forwards don't seem to know how to run off him.'"
This.
Aiton and Cuthbertson have both had great seasons, but neither IMO would've done as well if the other wasn't there. A prop need a good hooker, a hooker needs a good prop to excel off his hard work. Burrow has never made those forwards around him look better or lay a platform for them to shine. It's all about Burtow and making a big guy miss him.
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| Despite the errors from both sides this should not take anything away from what was a terrific victory for Leeds earned by a full team performance including good impact from all the subs. I had suggested Handley should be rested but he showed he has overcome his dip in confidence with a good hat trick.
However I would have gone for Ablett as MOM with Mags close behind. Notable mentions for our elderly props Kylie and JP who were superb and a big tackling stint from Keinhorst. Both our were lively and our performance when we were down to 12 showed the old Leeds winning desire.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Despite the errors from both sides this should not take anything away from what was a terrific victory for Leeds earned by a full team performance including good impact from all the subs. I had suggested Handley should be rested but he showed he has overcome his dip in confidence with a good hat trick.
However I would have gone for Ablett as MOM with Mags close behind. Notable mentions for our elderly props Kylie and JP who were superb and a big tackling stint from Keinhorst. Both our centres were lively and our performance when we were down to 12 showed the old Leeds winning desire.'"
I forgot to mention Ablett. Sounds odd with a player his age, but he's very underrated. If he'd come to SL from the NRL opposing fans would offer much more appreciation for his talents
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| Quote ="Les Norton"I forgot to mention Ablett. Sounds odd with a player his age, but he's very underrated. If he'd come to SL from the NRL opposing fans would offer much more appreciation for his talents'"
His form has really picked up after a very patchy start to the season. He's one of those players that just oozes class.
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| What was tonights attendance?
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| That was good to watch ...even if Hall bombed another two certain tries and poor Keinhorst had the ball knocked out of his grasp when about to score !! Comprehensive victory though methinks. Wish we could play saint helens more often
Wasn't Ablett's try class? The guy looks back to his best. AND Great to see Handley running and playing with confidence.....this young lad has a great future ahead of him (and to think somebody on here said he was fourth choice winger after Golding !! Doh!). Keinhorst too...the more I see of him the more I like him. He has to be kept. (who would have thought it?)
Kylie rolled back the years and Garbutt looks as though he might be another excellent acquiistion by our great club.
McGuire's passes to Hall...sublime. Fabulous to watch.
Shame about Ward....and what happened to Singleton? Injured? Or is he now down the pecking order with the arrival of Garbutt?
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"What was tonights attendance?'"
About 18.5k - cracking atmosphere
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"About 18.5k - cracking atmosphere
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Thankyou'"
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| Thought Sinfield and McGuire were absolute clear Man Of the match, either of them. A lot of players played really well, but absolutely everything came through those two. Sinfield controlling the game, and MCGuire with the quality execution.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"All the Leeds pack was superb, and to perform as they did without Stevie Ward makes it even more impressive.
We had some real impact off the bench as well from all 4 subs, even the much maligned Rob Burrow was superb, I thought we battered them, it was like Ivan Drago vs Apollo Creed at times
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| People have summed up the game nicely and the right players picked out for playing well so no need to spiel on.But I would just like to pick out Kylie for special praise,his first stint especially,looked like he did in his pomp ripping in on attack and defence capped with a trademark try.
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| As others have mentioned, our old boys, supported by Cuthbo and Garbutt played the much fancied Saints prop rotation off the park. Every one of our props played better than every one of theirs!
McGuire and Sinfield showed that they've still got the touches of class when playing behind a dominant pack - they absolutely controlled the game.
Watkins showed just how dangerous he can be when he gets plenty of ball - this is something we need to do see more consistently. We got him plenty of ball, but also last night he came looking for more ball. We know he's got the talent to be world class, and we need to exploit that more often, but he does have quiet games/spells and can be guilty of waiting for the ball and game to come to him sometimes - with the talent he has, I'd like to see him dominate more games, demand the ball and stamp himself all over games more often. He's good enough to grab a game by the scruff of the neck and take control.
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| I thought Leeds were excellent last night - they looked right at the top of their game. The forwards were very good they beat the Saints forwards with the speed of their footwork rather than their muscle. Peacock and Kylie were both superb as were Aiton and Ablett. Garbutt went OK and could be a good addition as the season continues. McDermott appears to have reigned in Cuthbertson which is a shame. Keinhorst showed up well again which may be useful given Ward's injury.
On the backs Watkins showed what he can do when you get him engaged - he has the potential to be one of the best centres in world rugby - either code. McGuire showed his class pity Hall had the butter fingers he should have had four at least. The pass to Handley for his try takes some ability - reminiscent of the pass to Hall in the epic Warrington play off game. Handley seems to have recovered his confidence after the Cas game.
As good as Leeds have been all season
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| A great performance last night and real champions' class. In a perverse way we can take some solace from the fact that you hammered a supposed challenger for the title by much more than we conceded. I honestly can't see anyone stopping you doing the double, which will be a great way for Sinfield and Peacock to bow out.
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| Sublime from start to finish last night.
Belting Game, surely has to be the performance of the season?
Honestly thought there was more in attendance last night? It looked packed everywhere.
And what about the Atmosphere, just like the old days in the South Stand!
Sure does build massive confidence for Wigan next Thursday.
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| With better execution, Leeds could have had forty by half-time. We made errors, but they were at the right end of the field and Saints couldn't capitalise.
A three man bench for large chunks of the game should have drained our energy levels, but monopolising possession in the early part of the game helped keep some gas in the tank along with - for once - decent use of substitutions by the coach.
Said after the Widnes game in the Cup that Saints wingers (particularly Dawson) defend too tight and leave space on the outside. Kev Brown exploited it a couple of times in that game with cut out passes direct to the winger, and Leeds did the same for Hall and Handley's first tries. Bit of good game planning.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"With better execution, Leeds could have had forty by half-time. We made errors, but they were at the right end of the field and Saints couldn't capitalise.
A three man bench for large chunks of the game should have drained our energy levels, but monopolising possession in the early part of the game helped keep some gas in the tank along with - for once - decent use of substitutions by the coach.
Said after the Widnes game in the Cup that Saints wingers (particularly Dawson) defend too tight and leave space on the outside. Kev Brown exploited it a couple of times in that game with cut out passes direct to the winger, and Leeds did the same for Hall and Handley's first tries. Bit of good game planning.'"
I agree...Hall was guilty of missing TWO certain tries (pass from Moon? and Hardaker? Although in the second he might be excused in being so surprised at getting the pass?! ).
Leeds were totally dominant and a joy to watch. As you say also for once good use of subs (having faith in the bench players obviously makes for much better decisions from our esteemed coach).
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