Halifax kicked down field. Wigan player dived on it and was tackled. Wigan then passed twice down the line, made a break, Hanley was then perfectly placed to take the pass as he was behind the Fax defensive line and completely unmarked as he dawdled back to get in the attacking line.

If they had the VR back then, a huge NO TRY for me.

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Grammar police put this in correct, off you why f**k don't

Your completely wrong it was straight after half time Lydon got it straight from ko and was halfway down the field whilst Ray French was waxing lyrical about Halifax sub dick Fairbanks.

Quote ="rollin thunder"Your completely wrong it was straight after half time Lydon got it straight from ko and was halfway down the field whilst Ray French was waxing lyrical about Halifax sub dick Fairbanks.'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo And it's [iyou're[/i.

Quote ="rollin thunder"Your completely wrong it was straight after half time Lydon got it straight from ko and was halfway down the field whilst Ray French was waxing lyrical about Halifax sub dick Fairbanks.'" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo And it's [iyou're[/i.

I hope you were on drugs that day, because even being pi55ed isn't an excuse for being as wrong as you are about it.

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I hope you were on drugs that day, because even being pi55ed isn't an excuse for being as wrong as you are about it.'" I hope you're on drugs now, and that's why you've forgotten Hanley scored more than one try that day: youtu.be/h1CWjholgkw?t=5m12s

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"I hope you were on drugs that day, because even being pi55ed isn't an excuse for being as wrong as you are about it.'" I hope you're on drugs now, and that's why you've forgotten Hanley scored more than one try that day: youtu.be/h1CWjholgkw?t=5m12s

Not that try, the other try...

Quote ="craigizzard"I hope you're on drugs now, and that's why you've forgotten Hanley scored more than one try that day: youtu.be/h1CWjholgkw?t=5m12s'" It's different days. The other one was at Thrum Hall, so they were completely different tries. Nothing wrong with Hanley's Wembley try. His Thrum Hall one was offside IMO. Strange how one player can score two tries so similar against the same side.

Quote ="craigizzard"I hope you're on drugs now, and that's why you've forgotten Hanley scored more than one try that day: youtu.be/h1CWjholgkw?t=5m12s'" It's different days. The other one was at Thrum Hall, so they were completely different tries. Nothing wrong with Hanley's Wembley try. His Thrum Hall one was offside IMO. Strange how one player can score two tries so similar against the same side.

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You useless knob hedd

People who pull people on grammar are usually got at grammar and took all else, usually thick as fook and work in IT

.... What...?

I'm deliberately being flippant. For god sake.

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"It's different days. The other one was at Thrum Hall, so they were completely different tries. Nothing wrong with Hanley's Wembley try. His Thrum Hall one was offside IMO. Strange how one player can score two tries so similar against the same side.'" I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo

Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"It's different days. The other one was at Thrum Hall, so they were completely different tries. Nothing wrong with Hanley's Wembley try. His Thrum Hall one was offside IMO. Strange how one player can score two tries so similar against the same side.'" I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo'" I'm not on drugs, but I probably should be on the evidence of this thread.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo'" I'm not on drugs, but I probably should be on the evidence of this thread.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo'" Headingley

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I don't know who is on drugs but I know that game was not at Thrum Hall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFlwTiE6Koo'" Headingley

He was only 15 to 20m offside

The kick can be a full on attempt to score but should always come with cover defence from those not leading the chase.

How much of a headlock did Leeds get Jewitt in when he made the break that led to the Castleford try - that sequence followed a negative Leeds attacking kick so did the tactic even work from a containing point of view.

Leeds used other kicks to control Castleford in the second half that were not negative. Sinfield pinning Dorn into the corner with his first kick of the half, McGuire's kick followed up by Jones-Buchanan and Bailey forcing the drop-out that led to Hall's second.

Why use negative kicks in attacking positions and take the pressure off the opppnents.

I get the fact that Leeds won and that is all anyone cares about whether that victory be by 1 or 13 or 23 points.

Unless you are Ben Westwood (who labelled Leeds in the final 'boring' for 'completing sets'.)

Sour grapes methinks.
They only drew last night because Brough missed a conversion that he'd get 9 times out off 10.
& they got every 50/50 call including the crucial Harrison try.
Would we have got bod on that?
I doubt it but Homer Bentham gave it.

That's up there with Wilkins "Whoop Whoop" and Cameras in the Changing Rooms outburst!

You need to read (c)...


Placed onside 3. An off side player is placed onside if:

(a) an opponent moves ten metres or more with the ball.

(b) an opponent touches the ball without retaining it.

(c) one of his own team in possession of the ball runs in front of him.

You need to read the notes:

"Out of Play” as opposed to “off side” 3. Players who are out of play at a play-the-ball (Section 11), a scrum (Section 12), a kick off or drop-out (Section

a penalty kick (Section 13) or a free kick (Section 13) are not put “on side” in the manner described in para 3 above. (Seeappropriate Sections).

To try to make a case against negativity I find somewhat ironic coming form a high priest from the Church of Negativity.

The object of any game is to win. In a knock out situation most coaches understand the need to give nothing away. In the Cup Final it is even more important to do this. You could say your "nothing play" actually is planned to give "nothing away" but you do not seem to grasp this aspect of a game plan and the importance of sticking to it.

It is not a negative play to control field position. It is not negative play to keep the opposition in their own 22 and it is not negative play to assert control over where you allow the opposition to regain possession after your own set. Indeed applying this control puts great pressure on the opponents whereas allowing them meter making kick returns puts the pressure back on the kick and hope ploy.

Had Sutcliffe or Hardaker in the London game had the nous or ability to kick for field position when we were 30-8 up we almost certainly would have another 2 points.

As far as I'm concerned that try would have rightly been ruled out for the blatant forward pass if Leeds didn't have such a tight grip on the game. If that forward pass had been given we'd have kept them pointless in the second half.



We put our faith in our defensive strength to not allow Cas to get back in the game.

IMO if the forwards were asked how they wanted to play it they would have all said what we were doing was the best way. Less running around chasing after kicks and wasting energy and more time on winning their battle. I don't think Cas will have been heartened by us kicking into touch, I think they will have known that we weren't going to mess this up and I think they will have been almost resigned to defeat.

In many ways it was a Jose Mourinho type mentality where you've got the win almost in the bag, don't put yourself at risk chasing an even bigger lead that you don't even need. Just kill the game as much as possible and lift the trophy at the final whistle. Given our record in Challenge Cup finals I find it ludicrous that it's being questioned.