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| Let's be honest here it was not a head butt to give a proper head butt you grab him by the shirt collar and pull him towards you hitting his nose with your forehead as you go into you opponent I think with his past clean record being a Leeds legend SENDING OFF SUFFICIENT and I am a HKR ex player and supporter
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| Quote ="easthull4"Let's be honest here it was not a head butt to give a proper head butt you grab him by the lapels and pull him towards you hitting his nose with your forehead as you go into you opponent I think with his past clean record being a Leeds legend SENDING OFF SUFFICIENT and I am a HKR ex player and supporter'"
"grab him by the lapels"?
Did you used to play in a bleeding tuxedo?
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| Kris Welham received no ban or fine and wasn't sent off for a headbutt back in February.
The precedent has been set.
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| The RFL need to send a clear message out about this to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Much like the ladies who went with Nazi officers during the war in occupied countries he should have his head shaved by an angry mob in City square.
Then forced to march to Red Hall while the people lining the streets throw rotten fruit at him.
Before he then enters an early guilty plea and get's told it's sending off sufficient.
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| It was a shock to see your captain do something like that but he is only human and we all snap at some stage and I am sure Sinfield was distraught after he was sent off and you could see that with the pictures of him sat in your dressing room. I'd love him to be a Cas player one day but that will never happen. It was not a full blooded headbutt as if it had been he would deserve a long ban but how many he'll get I don't know.
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| I hate to see these incidents - they have no place in the modern game and do nothing for the sports image.
Incidents like this should get an auto 8 game ban, regardless of good record.
And those saying it was 'nothing' should look again. Sinny's face was the picture of anger and hatred. He absolutely meant what he was doing. This was no forehead rubbing mating ritual like you see in football he went for him.
As a side note I was also appalled to hear sections of the Leeds fans cheering and clapping as he walked off. What Sinny did was idiotic and also cost us the game. To cheer violence from a seemingly unprovoked headbutt shows a very low level.
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| Quote ="Fallon"I hate to see these incidents - they have no place in the modern game and do nothing for the sports image.
Incidents like this should get an auto 8 game ban, regardless of good record.
And those saying it was 'nothing' should look again. Sinny's face was the picture of anger and hatred. He absolutely meant what he was doing. This was no forehead rubbing mating ritual like you see in football he went for him.
As a side note I was also appalled to hear sections of the Leeds fans cheering and clapping as he walked off. What Sinny did was idiotic and also cost us the game. To cheer violence from a seemingly unprovoked headbutt shows a very low level.'"
8 games my backside! it was a little love tap. 3 game ban maximum.
Maybe there is more to the incident that meets the eye. On sky they were saying that Luke Dorn was asking for the yellow card to be shown for holding down, if that was said Dorn should have gone to the bin at the same time as Sinfield's red.
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| Probably get at least 4 games, butting someone in the face....Ouch !!!!
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"8 games my backside! it was a little love tap. 3 game ban maximum.
Maybe there is more to the incident that meets the eye. On sky they were saying that Luke Dorn was asking for the yellow card to be shown for holding down, if that was said Dorn should have gone to the bin at the same time as Sinfield's red.'"
Why do some fans have such a knucklehead approach?
If he had pushed Dorns nose across his face would he then have warranted a bigger ban? Perhaps he could have added a fractured eye socket - happier then?
Maybe if it was Hock it would have been an 8 match ban yeah?
He headbutted an opponent, with intent, and he got him. All teh intent was there to cause injury. And that is before you get to the reputational damage it does to the sport.
Things like that need to be stamped out. End of. The RL need to send a message that this is not acceptable behavious.
Look at other sports. Suarez just got a 4 month ban for bitting. Not his first offence I know but what a strong message.
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| Quote ="Baked Bean Boogie"Hock is the biggest scumbag, Kev hasn't reached that level quite yet
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There are no scumbags playing professional RL in SL..
It is a contact sport that sometimes throws up mistimed tackles etc and the occassional brain fart by some of it's stars, including the most recent by Mr Hock..
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Think it's about time, posters stop putting personal tirades about our esteemed professional players
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| Quote ="Fallon"I hate to see these incidents - they have no place in the modern game and do nothing for the sports image.
Incidents like this should get an auto 8 game ban, regardless of good record.
And those saying it was 'nothing' should look again. Sinny's face was the picture of anger and hatred. He absolutely meant what he was doing. This was no forehead rubbing mating ritual like you see in football he went for him.
As a side note I was also appalled to hear sections of the Leeds fans cheering and clapping as he walked off. What Sinny did was idiotic and also cost us the game. To cheer violence from a seemingly unprovoked headbutt shows a very low level.'"
If it has ever been more evident that someone has never played this great game then I've yet to see it. If you had ever strapped on a pair of boots you'd know what can happen in the heat of battle and you may not have noticed but Rugby League is a contact sport and is inherently violent, either live with it or maybe take up watching a more sedate sport, - chess perhaps? Saying that those boys can hit those clocks with some venom.
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| Luke Dorn's after match interview was spot on. Shocked that it was Sinny but these things happen in the heat of the moment. Probable 3 match ban - 2 at least.
Leeds will survive without him for spell - no doubt.
On another note - could Rhino's Vs Tigers now be [size=150THE[/size West Yorkshire derby ?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"If it has ever been more evident that someone has never played this great game then I've yet to see it. If you had ever strapped on a pair of boots you'd know what can happen in the heat of battle and you may not have noticed but Rugby League is a contact sport and is inherently violent, either live with it or maybe take up watching a more sedate sport, - chess perhaps? Saying that those boys can hit those clocks with some venom.'"
I wasnt aware we had met, yet alone that you had seen me 'not play'.
Because I dont run around the pitch headbutting people for what... ripping my shirt, maybe calling me names Im a chess player?
Keep them coming, you just prove your own point and show why our great sport is relegated to the backlands of half a column 8 pages in from the back page.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Luke Dorn's after match interview was spot on. Shocked that it was Sinny but these things happen in the heat of the moment. Probable 3 match ban - 2 at least.
Leeds will survive without him for spell - no doubt.
On another note - could Rhino's Vs Tigers now be [size=150THE[/size West Yorkshire derby ?'"
exactly what i thought. dorn wasnt too bothered about it all afterwards, was just surprised. its a ban, but hardly worth 8...
however. I see the RFL using this to dash the flames of the "conspirators" by giving him a hefty ban a la Hock...
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| Quote ="Fallon"I wasnt aware we had met, yet alone that you had seen me 'not play'.
Because I dont run around the pitch headbutting people for what... ripping my shirt, maybe calling me names Im a chess player?
Keep them coming, you just prove your own point and show why our great sport is relegated to the backlands of half a column 8 pages in from the back page.'"
Football then, the kicky type - they tend to get all huffy an throw little paddies when they get upset.
Oh and I'd rather watch this great sport as it was meant to be played while reading about it in "backlands of half a column 8 pages in from the back page" than dilute it so it suits the masses.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Football then, the kicky type - they tend to get all huffy an throw little paddies when they get upset.
Oh and I'd rather watch this great sport as it was meant to be played while reading about it in "backlands of half a column 8 pages in from the back page" than dilute it so it suits the masses.'"
Here bloody here! its amazing how the sky commentators attitudes have changed towards the rough stuff
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Luke Dorn's after match interview was spot on. Shocked that it was Sinny but these things happen in the heat of the moment. Probable 3 match ban - 2 at least.
Leeds will survive without him for spell - no doubt.
On another note - could Rhino's Vs Tigers now be [size=150THE[/size West Yorkshire derby ?'"
Absolutely spot-on. He shouldn't have done it, we know that, Sinfield knows that, but in the heat of a collision sport it happens. His exemplary record should keep this to a 2-3 game stretch and after that it should be forgotten about.
As a Hull FC fan living in Leeds, I went last night. A great game in an incredible atmosphere and very friendly supporters from both sides.
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| Looking at it on the big screen at the game it looks like Dorn has his leg wrapped round Sinfield`s leg in an attempt to win the penalty.
It happens in most games.
It appears Dorn is asking the ref to sin bin him (that`s according to SKY now)
Sinfield throws some verbals and walks towards Dorn in an aggresive manner again not like Sinfield to lose it.
I can only assume he thinks Dorn is going to go head to head and throws his forehead into Dorn`s face.
Sending off decision correct.
No damage done to Dorn more damage done to Sinfield`s pride.
3 game ban reduced to 2 on an EGP.
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| Quote ="Fallon"
He headbutted an opponent, with intent, and he got him. All teh intent was there to cause injury. And that is before you get to the reputational damage it does to the sport.'"
No it really wasn't. Have you even seen the incident?
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| Quote ="chapylad"Looking at it on the big screen at the game it looks like Dorn has his leg wrapped round Sinfield`s leg in an attempt to win the penalty.
It happens in most games.
It appears Dorn is asking the ref to sin bin him (that`s according to SKY now)
Sinfield throws some verbals and walks towards Dorn in an aggresive manner again not like Sinfield to lose it.
I can only assume he thinks Dorn is going to go head to head and throws his forehead into Dorn`s face.
Sending off decision correct.
No damage done to Dorn more damage done to Sinfield`s pride.
3 game ban reduced to 2 on an EGP.'"
^this^ - bang on.
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| Bang on Chapylad totally agree on all counts.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"JP stepped in, he was near the altercation and did what any prop would do and backed his captain. what did you want him to do?'"
He could have separated the players & acted as a peace maker or pushed the players apart but instead tried to throttle Dorn. I think you are forgetting that Dorn was the victim in all this after Sinfield cynically tried to slow the play of the ball down then deliberately head butted him. JP is also at fault in this altercation and his actions should have him up at the disciplinary panel too.
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| Quote ="curly990"He could have separated the players & acted as a peace maker or pushed the players apart but instead tried to throttle Dorn. I think you are forgetting that Dorn was the victim in all this after Sinfield cynically tried to slow the play of the ball down then deliberately head butted him. JP is also at fault in this altercation and his actions should have him up at the disciplinary panel too.'"
You seem more concerned with JP throwing his weight around than a headbutt. Get a grip.
Dorn was the victim of a headbutt (a headbutt in the loosest sense of one), but he was part of the reason there was an incident at all. So not blameless.
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| Quote ="curly990"He could have separated the players & acted as a peace maker or pushed the players apart but instead tried to throttle Dorn. I think you are forgetting that Dorn was the victim in all this after Sinfield cynically tried to slow the play of the ball down then deliberately head butted him. JP is also at fault in this altercation and his actions should have him up at the disciplinary panel too.'"
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Jesus.
A passenger plane gets deliberately shot out of the sky
Sir Kevin Sinfield goes around head butting.
And now a decent Wigan fan.
I'm confused.'"
You missed out Peacock's drop goal attempt
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