BJB was poor tonight,but of course he wasnt to blame for the defeat,there were average performances from the team throughout.I think its a fair point to say we should be stopping the constant rotating of the wings now though.

if you were refering to any of my earlier posts I certainly wasnt having a pop at the coach.If anything I would say its a credit to wane how he took advantage of the situation to the max.

And one who has been outplayed by MM on every occasion they have met over the last 3 years.

Bit of an understatement that he didn't have his best game tonight, but f me, how quick are some on here to turn on BJB now he's announced his departure??

How would you judge McIlorum then or Dudson?

McGuire was wanting a quick play the ball - what was he supposed to do let Williams dictate the speed of the play the ball?

Leeds fans moaning about their tactics for three years under McClennan being used against them and calling it corruption?

The holding down Jones-Buchanan and Ablett have got away with over the years has infuriated me, Bailey used as an enforcer just like a few Pies were yesterday is hailed as brilliant by you lot, snide little digs from McGuire here and there over the years hasn't gone unnoticed by many fans of other clubs but you don't like it when Wigan get a few players doing it...

I have no love for the Pies whatsoever, in fact I can't stand them and I was hoping that Moon chance at the end was given as a Try, but sometimes in sport what goes around comes around.

Thought MM 'hit' on Peacock was nothing short of a s***house tactic, should have been red for me


Otherwise tough, bruising encounter in which Wigan played a blinder tactically against us

Lol, he hardly even connected.

It was a pretty run of the mill high shot. He deserved binning for doing it 4 seconds after the ref had spoken to him. Sky team had a meltdown, but 10 minutes was fair enough.

I can't believe the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth from some fans of both teams over a bit of needle. I thought it was great. Shame Wigan did it better than we did. That's sport.

It doesn't matter what decisions went for us or against us, at the end of the day the players that took the pitch last night, have enough experience, and more than enough ball, and field position to win the game. But we didn't.

Would watkins or one of aiton and burrow made a difference? I definitely think so yes, but Wigan deserved the win, so no major complaints from me, just move on to next week

After the latest episode of thggery by McIlorum it is clear as to why he is still known by some Queen's supporters as "Mental MIckey"

So you admit there was intent though?

Ha ha ha. Thuggery.

What would these people have made of RL in the 80s?

Kevin Skerrett. :0)

I didn't know Kelvin's brother Kevin played?

Great read lads, top laugh, eased my hangover a bit.

Err, no.

End of the day Leeds got their smacked by a bunch of kids. Live with it.

Tell me which match, them.

Exactly, in fact why didn't he just punch Williams while he was at marker so he couldn't make the next tackle...

In every tackle you will see the tackled player struggling to get the tackler off them often this includes kicking out - what McGuire did id not unique it happens in every game.

Perhaps you would like to comment on Dudson's off the ball shove on McGuire or McIlorum's shot on Peacock?

As I said before the best team won on the night - these comments are not sour grapes just genuine observations of what I saw.

I will comment, both foul play; but I'm not trying to justify foul play, you are.

I must admit came on this thread to have a bit of a giggle at all the indignation but, 'Worlds' Apart' notwithstanding (God! He's an embarrassment, isn't he?

) you guys have taken it for what it was; a young 'up for it' team doing whatever was needed to best their much more experienced and supposedly game aware counterparts. Both teams sailed close to the wind at times. For every McIlorum high shot on JP, there was Bailey's forearm to the face in the tackle, for every Dudson push off the ball on McGuire there was his petulant kick into William's chest in return. It was a good, tough game played with lots of aggression and, as posted elsewhere on this thread, Wigan just did it that little bit better. I posted after the last match that I felt the games between the two sides would be equally contested this season and that the results could go either way. From a Wigan perspective, however, it was great to see such a young side able to hold their own and more this time around. Great spectacle and here's to many more like it!

They played exactly the same two weeks ago against us yet we managed to still outplay them, although they upped the thuggery yesterday to grab the win

constant Holding down at the PTB (which again wasn't penalised until 30 mins had gone)

Third man always smashing in to torso of the ball handler

Holding down with the forearm pressed into ball handlers face on multiple occasion.( only penalised once)

and just 80 mins on niggling gamesmanship from them and expected no less from them yesterday.

Its obviously premeditated tactics, which I wouldn't be proud of if I was a wigan fan

Above was the tactics used two weeks aga.


See Cas vs Leeds for a hard fought very competitive game of RL without the need of gamesmanship and thuggery.

Yesterday's game has no place in todays RL, give me a game similar to Cas v Leeds any day of the week