He's 32 going on 33 FFS, not in his 70s.

Absolutely no reason why he shouldn't be going strong at JP's age provided he looks after himself properly.

you would wouldn't you

Maybe, and i hope he is.

I would say most players are pretty much finished or well on the slide though and ready for retiring at 33/34 or dropping down a level in standard.Its hard to think of too many players who can still hold their level at 34/35 and i would suggest JJB's best days are long gone.Just my opinion of course.

I await news of Danny Mcguire's 4 year deal in the not too distant future.

5 of our first team squad played in the 2004 Grand Final....

A lot of people forget that he spent a lot of his junior career injured, even when he got into the first team. That alone will have prolonged his career and the other players often mention how he is a machine in training. I once saw him running to training on kirkstall rd near YTV studios at 7.30 in the morning!!!!

i like him as a player but a 3 year deal at 32, when he had a year left anyway is ridiculous.

Age is over rated, players can play well into there mid to late 30's nowadays, injury and desire permitting. Some youngster may usurp JJB in the first team in next couple of years, but they will have to be a good un.

age is over rated but RL is a tough sport. not many forwards carry on to mid 30's. no problem with JJb but surely to god one year at a time should be the option

Steve Menzies still played when he was 39, people think it's great.
JJB still playing at 32 (possibly 35) Leeds are running their club incorrectly.

i've no problem with him playing at 35,45 or 55 if he merits it. its the length of the deal and the timing i think is wrong

Can easily be turned into a coaching contract (whether it be first team or with the youngsters) though really if need be by form or injuries. A role which always seemed likely.

I know we have had disagreements, but I have never thought anything bad of you mate. To try and put any comparison between JJB and Menzies though is sheer lunacy. JJB at his absolute best was still never half as good as Menzies at his end.

Quite right.

Makes good sense to extend JJB's contract as he is one of the better back rowers in SL who has been one of the cornerstones of Leeds's remarkable run of success. A real 100 per no one has emerged yet to take his place.

The irony of you mentioning "sheer lunacy" re-printers Jjb/Menzies comparison then post that last sentence!


Also just for the record re-Menzies as good as he was and as old as he played till the past 3 years of his time at Manly were spent as a bit part/bench player aswell.
Players like JP ,Menzies are few and far between and do not automatically mean others can play for and be as good as them into their late 30's.
That said i still maintain many of our pack especially the Front row are either too old(Kylie) ,on the slide(Jjb) nowhere near as good as they were(Bailey) or just aren't good enough full stop (Kirke) .
I just dont see the point giving Jjb a 3yr deal (2yr exstension) at this moment in time he's been a great player for us and i still he has plenty to offer but i'd prefer a year at a time approach tbh.

And if that "year at a time" approach leads to players moving on elsewhere and having three or four good years, you'll be the first whinging about Hetherington and McDermott mismanaging the club.

Sometimes they must wonder why they bother.

A good rational post and sums up my sentiments on the subject.

I don't think anyone at this stage would be against keeping a great club servant like JJB on, its just throwing 3 year deals at players of his age, and more than likely still on very good money, it seems needless when he still has this year to run yet.

The worry for me has to be that more and more of our golden period players will be handed similar longer term deals on the assumption they will just keep going at the same level.It doesn't work like that and could blow up in our faces down the line.Using the likes of Menzies as an example is no good.He is the exception to the rule, a freak one off and looked like he could even have carried on for another couple of years at the end of last year.

JJB is one of the fittest players at the club and still a first choice forward, so a two year extention of his contract is good business. I repeat no one yet has emerged who can take his place and he will remain very good cover when this does happen. I remember a couple of seasons ago they were writing off JP as too old, too injured etc etc. He confounded that opinion and so will JJB .

If that's aimed directly at me then it's bollox mate i was fully behind the departures of Senior ,Ali and barrie Mc to name just 3 if it happens that's life.
Fwiw i dont believ for 1 minute Jjb would leave anyway irrespective if had a 2/3 yr offer compared to the 1 at a time on the table from Leeds.
The year at a time approached has worked in the past plus given how our pack shapes up its time imo to start the transition whilst also playing it safe with players like Jjb.

On JJB, if left to him he may end his career sooner than he could naturally.

In the play-off game defeat at Wigan Brian Mac confirmed that JJB was not fit to play but he wanted to so he did. So a hearty but ineffective JJB took the field and didn't appear in the 2nd half IIRC.

There has also been a couple of occasions where JP has refused to be subbed off (when the consensuses would tell us he may appreciate game breaks and fuller use of our squad)

So maybe under a stronger coach, not letting players act like the above, would see these players in better state and in better condition to add to their aging careers rather than potentially cutting them short.

Is it not possible that JJB could have taken a reduction in salary for an extended contract to free up some space on the salary cap?

That is my take on the situation.

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Quote ="Andy Gilder"Batten down the hatches, the storm of outrage is coming... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22243.php#.UuZeBdJFCA4'" Whoops you beat me to it. Apologies for the new thread on this, tho JP does merit his own thread. However, three threads on the same subject plus this one may be slightly over-egging the pudding.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"Batten down the hatches, the storm of outrage is coming... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22243.php#.UuZeBdJFCA4'" Whoops you beat me to it. Apologies for the new thread on this, tho JP does merit his own thread. However, three threads on the same subject plus this one may be slightly over-egging the pudding.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"Batten down the hatches, the storm of outrage is coming... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22243.php#.UuZeBdJFCA4'" Not really. There is no comparison between Peacock and JJB. One is far more important than the other. Again though, would Peacock have really have looked for a contract from another club for 2015? would he buggery. So again, why not just one year at a time?

Quote ="Andy Gilder"Batten down the hatches, the storm of outrage is coming... www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22243.php#.UuZeBdJFCA4'" Not really. There is no comparison between Peacock and JJB. One is far more important than the other. Again though, would Peacock have really have looked for a contract from another club for 2015? would he buggery. So again, why not just one year at a time?

Again, maybe he's taken a paycut this year for the certainty of a two-year deal?