I agree with some of what you say regarding leeds ageing players, but you are talking as if wigan are champions.

You still have a grand final to win on saturday you know.

Win or lose the GF we are still the winners of the CC. And of course there is a bigger picture of our youth development and ages of our first teamers.

Just look at the ages of the likes of:
Charnley
Thornley
Matty Smith (still only 26)
Taylor
Dudson
McM

the list goes on...

You didn't just write that did you?

Are you confused?

Possibly at your level of arrogance and short sightedness.

Haha... explain. Cos really, everything I'd said is backed up with facts.

Aw, that's not exactly backing up a Super League title!

the challenge cup is not the sign of a great team. Great teams will win them, but the inverse is not true. Its a nice to have. If you win on saturday that makes you a much more special team.

You do have a very promising spine to the team, with good exciting young players, but so do Leeds. We have 2 or 3 exceptional players to replace in the next 2 years, but we have started the transition already

Poor attempt at trolling at least mr eve doesnt try this hard.

SOW by plenty. GH by plenty who knows!!!

Just look at the ages of the likes of:
Hardaker
Hall
Watkins
Moon
BJB
Sutcliffe
Singleton
Ward
the list goes on.....
And now Briscoe.

You're a long way from seeing the back of us just yet!

There's two comps to win, the GF or CC, this year Wigan have won one and are in the final for another, basically they've had the most successful season of all clubs.
'The challenge cup is not the sign of a great team'-yet every team in the country will do what they can to win it.

Interesting comment from a Leeds fan.

And what about your proven winners ages?
Peacock
Sinfield
Mags
Burrow
Brett
JJB
Lulu
Kirke

Imagine if the Last son of Wigan's long lost cousin called Last son of Leeds went on the pie board and typed this type of crap. he would have been sentenced to a very slow painful death by now.

Tom Briscoe a top signing for us. IMO we now have 3 of the 4 best English wingers in the game on our books now. Strength in depth! Now all we need is a proper top quality hooker!

The best team in the competition wins the grand final as in the play offs they have to beat at least three of their rivals to win.

The luck of the draw plays a big part in the challenge cup. For example this year wigan played one team who finished in the top 8 of the league. Thats not to discredit their efforts but that shouldnt be ignored.

My long lost cousin is 36 and passed it, like most of Leeds team



He's a great signing, would have loved him at Wigan, no doubt there. The point is how he's chosen a team in decline over a constantly improving team.

Rumours are we're after Hull's other Tom.

clutching at straws

Did Leeds wanna win the CC? Yes, obviously, all the teams did.
The playoff system suits Leeds, with an old team they couldn't perform consistantly week in/week out and win the league, they've proven that time after time, and this season they were smacked by a younger better team (Wigan) who knocked them out.

Pick someone else off the list I provided then.

They are not facts though, they are opinions.

Rewind 12 months and Leeds were champions and knocked Wigan out of both comps. Whereas this year Leeds haven't made a final yet you have reached two.

It shows swings can happen and we can't per-determine too much between the long established teams in the competition. That's within one season, let alone what will be seen (up's and down's) for a 5 year playing career.

More to close to home, significant personnel loses at Wigan will have an impact on their short term success. But currently no-one can say what that outcome will be.

I've given you a reasonable response considering your troll like attitude.

What was Wigan's excuse for not performing consistently week in, week out?

As you can see I've backed up my comments with facts and not resorted to personal name calling, which you have, so please don't try and take the higher ground.

You won the CC by default. Any top 4 team would have won with that cup run. It was the icing on the cake that in the final wigan played poorly, but hull could barely get to tackle 2 without making an unforced error. It must have been the easiest run in rugby league history. Has any team ever won the final having only played one top 6 team?

It's quite staggering that you come on here, preaching to us. Leeds may be entering transition but you would be a fool to think that because of that, and the age of wigans team that they are going to magically dominate. If anything, leneghan has shown himself unable to hold onto some of your top youngsters. What happened to sam being nailed down and not able to speak to other clubs for 3 years?

You had the wool pulled over your eyes there. Probably just as likely is that just as you achieve success, you lose another top player bringing you back into the pack.

Wigan proved at the start of the season they are all dominate when they need to be in the league. They have a young squad which can deal with the week in week out games.

Yes they cruised at the back end of the season when a top 4 spot was secure, but unlike Leeds they won the CC and got to the GF final.

Yes but you kind of miss the point about the strength of the teams.

Leeds actually finished above wigan in the table, how does that work then? or did you forget.



I think i want Warrington to win saturday now, your stupidity has tipped me over the edge.

Won the CC by default? What a load of BS... so so bitter. We won it, you wanted to and didn't. You wanted to win the GF and have been knocked out easily in the semi's...both were Wigan wins.