As a warrington season ticket holder for many years, this was the 2nd final i have been to in recent years (was in canada when we played hudds.) I thought the atmosphere outside the ground in the torch pub was great, fans from all teams mixing having a laugh even the bouncers on the door looked bored lol. Walking down wembley way the only knobs i saw was 3 women from warrington acting like they had been let out of winwick for the day. Inside the ground i was in block 111 row 12 and there was a group of about 10 leeds fans at the very front aged 30's-50's. Must admit i was wary when i came in and saw them but to there credit they didnt seem to cause no bother and when kirke scored celebrated like they had just smashed the aussies and the guy dancing with the flag in the aisle made me chuckle. I do think its a lottery what type of people you get to sit around, but find it's more the daytrippers rather than RL regulars that cause the problems. For 1: they go down with a mentality that they are there to defend there towns honour or something and become tribal, a group of wire fans sat near us sang for yorkshire bas***ds for 80 mins. 2: They also seem to think it's a challenge to see if they can fit as much alcohol into there system before KO as possible. I dont think banning beer is the answer at RL games but maybe at the finals could be. I never have any drunk idiots around me at the HJ where beer is drunk by the majority during SL matches.

Was with Andy ,in fact the lad that got challenged was my nephew , luckily he's fairly laid back and told the drunken Warrington Yob where to go politely, but I'm sure if it had come to it my lad , playing Pro with the Cougars and considerably more sober would have wiped the floor with him .Also the two Rhinos kids were only 6 and 10 years old and to on a Cup final /London Family weekend with their parents ,the youngest one was to be honest probably more interested in her Nintendo DS and cuddly Ronnie Rhino than the action on the pitch- which shows the true 'hardness' of the idiots , who mostly spent the afternoon sing Anti Robin Van Persie songs, says it all really ..never RL fans in a million years and its a shame they choose to attach themselves to any team ..be it Wire or Leeds

I reported the incidents to the Stewards but none came near at all ...Pathetic !

We like quite a few of the Championship Club Supporters sat around us (a big group of Eagles Fans were close by)
bought our tickets through our Clubs , putting the money back into them . Surely it shouldn't be beyond the powers that be to make sure these tickets are in a reasonably neutral area .

The only other time I've encountered any bother at a major final was with tickets supplied through the RFL when my Junior Club took a Coach load to Old Trafford a few years back , sticking fifty odd Junior Players and Coaching Staff from Yorkshire , Slap bang in the St Helens End .

Just out of interest, the tickets that are supplied to other lower league clubs for fundraising purposes by the RFL - we see these tickets being sold on the finalists forums as soon as the finalists are known, which is all well and good and raises money for the clubs concerned - but if one of their purchasers causes trouble and is evicted from the crowd or worse, ends up arrested and facing criminal charges - what do the RFL do to the club who they supplied the ticket to being as they have effectively touted the ticket to a stranger ?

Did you see it when a couple of our lads decided to have a tackle-off. Pure comedy.

Basically being massively drunk don't mean you cause trouble. Being an idiot does.

It happens to an extent at Cup Finals too. You know which set of fans you'll be sitting with to a degree. It doesn't mean fans should not be allowed to watch from where they want, just like they can at Headingley, the KC, DW etc if they choose to

Yeah saw that, first i thought it was sumo, but then knew what it was.
At the end of the day the majority of the people i saw had had quite a lot to drink and hardly any of those were even remotely violent or threatening. Banning alcohol because of a minority of idiots is not the way.

Also did you catch the woman and guy getting their kit off in that bizarre game they were playing, and the lads sliding across the beer benches. All good fun really.

If that were to stop the trouble that is now so evident at finals then that's what will have to happen.

Time and time again at finals now, there are fights in the stands, involving people in shirts of teams that aren't contesting the final!

And just as often there are issues between fans of the same club.

I'd much rather sit next to a sober Saints, Wigan or Hull fan than an absolutely hammered Leeds fan.

Just because these people are wearing a different shirt doesn't mean they don't deserve to be treated like human beings - the fault is not with wear people sit, it is with how people behave.

Punishing the majority for the actions of the minority is the wrong way to go for me, i say punish the minority with a very heavy punishment. Give them a life ban, all stadiums, then they'll only kick off in the pub back in Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cheshire, Humber etc etc.

I say this after every final, and I agree with what has been said in this thread....if I want to have 6 or 8 pints before a match then I will do, but funilly enough I've never felt the urge to kick off and cause a nuisance of myself! Idiots are idiots whether they are drunk or not!

Idiots are worse, and much more offensive when they are drunk.

Anyone who can't walk properly shouldn't be allowed in.

Anyone causing trouble once in the gorund should be kicked out and punished.

I'm not suggesting no one should be allowed a drink, I probably would ban it from the seats though

I've attended a few union games at Headingley & Otley over last couple of seasons, and never seen the drunkenness I regular see at RL games.

Always been an enjoyable experience, and happy to take my kids along

Key elements are that some coaches are allowing beer on which is against the law. meaning that coach loads are arriving already hammered at noon till 1pm, they are allowed into the ground due to the stadium not having any stewards outside by the turnstyle. Then they are allowed more booze because the hired help on the bars will not refuse service.

From reading this thread, it would appear that some people unfortunately mysteriously attract trouble. For the past 6 seasons, both at Wembley and Old Trafford, I have never encountered any trouble or threatening behavior in my vicinity, and this is always sitting in the ends in the "cheap seats", usually with Leeds fans, who have conducted themselves well.

Are people just hypersensitive? This year, my and my party were sat in a similar location to others who have commented in this thread (Leeds end, top tier, corner on the tunnel side) and there was a bit of rowdyness towards the back with a few people spilling their ale but nothing all that offensive? I'm not sure what people are thinking when they personally challenge the people that are causing trouble as this will just stir things up 10 fold. Like some have said, tell a steward if you are that concerned. Last week at The Stoop a few Warrington supporters in the next block were getting a bit upset at several of us celebrating Broncos tries. As usual they were offering us out for a fight etc, best thing IMO to do is give them a smile and a wave, rather than telling them to be quiet.

sell the beer in tippy cups will that make everyone happy ffs its a bit of spilt beer at excitement during the match it happens get over it and move on

Which then makes it look like you're taking the mickey out of them and antagonises them further.

Best thing to do is inform the stewards and ignore them, not make matters worse.

Not in my experience.



'Mr Steward, the nasty man over there is indicating he wants a fight at full time, please tell him to stop

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Having a neutral are would make no difference, I feel. Idiots are idiots all year round, not just when they've had a sip of Southern ale. In the neutral end, you'd still get rival fans sitting together and idiots would still create, albeit fewer as I feel that neutrals are there for the Rugby rather then a fight.

Ban all drinking on coaches for a start. I imagined many from Leeds/Warrington were ripping cans open at 7/8am on Saturday and boozed all day and probably till they were arrested or passed out.

Do what they do at Old Trafford and ban drinking in view of the pitch too, that stops the chucking of beer and stops people from boozing non-stop as it means they'll have to get up, get there beer then drink it out of sight of the pitch. I drink but a pint wouldn't get me out of my seat at the Cup Final.

Well i was with my whole famley at wembley watching my nephew play for cas high with my daughters who dont even go to rugby and the amount of abuse they got just because they had Cas tops on unreal i can take stick i can handle the inbred line working ing in leeds im used to it but when it was aimed at my 9 and 12 year old daughters who dont even watch rugby or even live in Cas is a joke 1 drucken Leeds fool who got told in no certain words to shut up not just by me other normal Leeds fans. i believe having been to other big Rugby games it just seams an excuse now days to get so drunk and i am not having go at leeds every teams are the same including my own who can be worse than most wish the RFL would get a grip of this.

Not illegal to drink on a coach. Football coaches yes but not any other. It robust "policing" at the turnstiles though. Nobody who is blathered at 230pm should be allowed in. Sadly though some see away games and big games as an excuse to get blathered. I fail to see how they enjoy the games or remember them. It's not all fans at all, but it's the few that can spoil it for some. I had a Wire fan next to me who was more like the village idiot constantly getting in my face and grabbing me when Wire scored. If I had wanted to or been inclined he may well have had a few problems to deal with. I am neither Leeds or Wire yet he felt the need to try and wind me up. I won't let it spoil my experience though and will be at Wembley twice next year.

I have only just discovered this forum, after speaking to a really genuine Leeds fan before the game on Saturday, hence this being my first post.

I didn't come across any real trouble during my weekend stay (Friday - Sunday) and all of the fans I met whilst seeing the sites of London and before and after the game were all a great representation of the sport.

The only trouble I came across was on the way back to my hotel with my girlfriend when a fellow Warrington fan had a few to many and had a few unpolite words to say about Yorkshire. Consequently a group of around 10 Bradford fans were quick in telling the bloke where to go, but we're also quick to apologise when the situation was defused.

Overall I thought it was a great weekend, and has left my thoughts of leeds fans on a good note.

It is illegal to carry alcohol on coaches etc heading to sporting events.

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My experiance this year was simple, couple of cans on the way down and a few on way back

lovely day out and enjoyed it

I hold a PCV license, it is only illegal in FOOTBALL matches, speak to any Traffic Cop.