Why? Contrary to some postings, we have a lot of young players in the squad. I don't think it's unreasonable to hope that they will be better players at the start of next season than they were at the start of this.

Besides which, I think the right coach would probably have been worth 6 league points this year on his own. I can't prove that, obviously.

I agree r.e. coach. But we have this coach.

Just changing the coach (subject to who it is) we will finish higher than we do this season. Change any player you like, with this coach we will finish lower next season.

Quite likely. I did qualify my post (I certainly intended to) with the change of coach as a key feature.

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fed up now

a top man signing when we wanted Savile Row FFS

if was any where near good enough to play for a team playing to win trophies then there would have been a lot fight for his signature and believe you me everyone was beating a path to his door

in reality IMHO he offers nothing better than what was at the club already and does nothing to delight the fans and bring in the merchandise. who wants a Richie Moore action figurine? who will want to have his number on the shirt?

Mind you i take my hat off to his agent with the contract that he did get.

what i want to know was Peter Ridsdale doing the negotiation for the Rhinos

Not the best signing but am starting to feel sorry for him now so, "Go Richard......"





Comparing him to Burgess, BTW, is pointless. Burgess didn't want to be here and wouldn't have been here next season regardless.....

Nobody is comparing him to Burgess, in terms of "we'd rather have Burgess". Burgess isn't an option, we know that. Nobody has said "Why did we sell Burgess then sign Moore?". Everybody knows Burgess was going anyway.

That said... we've only lost one prop, and only signed one prop. So it is quite right to make comparisons. People are asking why Burgess hasn't been replaced with somebody of a similar calibre, not why Burgess isn't here.

True...but even if we suggest he is a replacement for Cross it is still difficult to understand with both Amor and Ambler back from loan. Both are at least as good with much more to come .. They have age on their side with the capacity to be the cornerstones of the Leeds pack for many years to come: Snore doesn't.

Amor has gone well this year. I remain a little underwhelmed with Ambler, so I'm wary of burdening him with the "future of the pack" tag at this point. I haven't seen that much of him though, so I may have the wrong impression of him.

It wasn't that long ago that most on here preferred Ambler
and had written off Amor.
Either way both are better than Kirke ( and Kylie ) ( and Moore ) for kicking on in 2012.

Of the three Moore could be better than the has-been and the never- has-been.... But having all THREE next year ( especially with our present esteemed incumbent coach ) is the kiss of slow lingering death of a club, that has had its halcyon days well and truly numbered.

Remind me again of the roots of that recent success .. Youth or aged has beens ? ?

Decent player with plenty of aggression and go forward , someone had concerns over his temperament , personally I would welcome someone with a bit of genuine mongrel about them .

Not a stellar signing by any means , but if it means Kirke never plays prop again its fine by me.

P.s. I remember Wigan fans being just as underwhelmed when they signed Coley , but that didnt turn out too badly .

We are probably going for the usual leeds approach with props and letting our own produced ones go.

I am sure he will do ok but not really impressed with the signing.

I don't understand this signing, can anyone explain it to me? Why have we signed an ordinary 30+ year old Prop on a 3 year contract, when we already have a number of 30+ year old props?

If he was a world beater, or had significant room for improvement in him, then maybe I could understand it, but this makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he may have been drafted in as a replacement for Amor who I think might be coming to Wakey full time, we'll have to see.

Right age category. 30 and over.You've got to applaud his agent 3 years for a very average player. Probably, hopefully, comes cheap.
Nothing left for it but to hope he comes good and live up to his 'huge potential' label although I'm not holding my breath that we have the coach that could do that as he doesn't seem to be able to bring the best out of the group of internationals he took charge of.

Crap signing.

It is a crap signing imo, but lets till we see what happens or doesnt happen.If we dont sign anyone of note then the writing will be on the wall, we then prepare ourselves for a very unsuccessful period until the ground redevelopements are paid for,because to me its looking ominous

I'd agree with that - Moore has improved massively over the last few years (even with his health problems, ill child etc etc). Not a stellar signing but then what do we expect at prop. And we've been crying out for a bit more of a sh*thouse pack (especially when JP was out).

The three year deal is a surprise for a 30yr old but I'm sure that Leeds have saved a fair bit of salary cap space by giving him an extra year.

I only hope this doesn't mean Bailey won't be renewed (I'd much rather have him for another year than Kirke or Kylie).

PS we're really living up to the whinos nickname on this thread aren't we

I think that label was when he was 18 and since then he has done nothing at all to live up to it and i seriously doubt at 30 he is going to start now. One of mcdermott's mates you would guess, how else would he get a 3 year contract.....absolute joke signing

who next ?? What about jumping in for Paul King before he signs for whitehaven ?? surely we could offer him at least 2 years

Take him now he is utter rubbish-He is dreadful in a poor team

Give us BJB back

And how do you know no one else wanted him - someone on here said earlier this week Warrington were interested and Moore himself has said [i"I had arranged to speak to a number of clubs but once I had spoken to Gary Hetherington and knew Leeds were keen to bring me back, I was not interested in speaking to anyone else"[/i



What deal did he get? You obviously know the details

(I'd have thought that the infamously tight Gary Hetherington would have been in a pretty good bargaining position given that Moore was effectively unemployed).



With the possible exception of Barrie Mac I can't imagine the club wouldn't really expect a prop forward to shift any merchandise.

Lets at least try and keep some sense of perspective.

McDermott doesn't decide who we sign - and neither did any of his esteemed predecessors.