Did Buderus get a rest on Friday? I thought he was on for the full 80!

In the last 15 minutes I guess he made more tackles than any other player and he got back to make that final tackle. The 2 times he was done for offside he had actually made a tackle each time. I bet he was heading for 30 tackles in the game and the majority of those were first in on forwards as against some of the others who are normally 3rd in.

Not sure if he did and if he didn't it's an error tactically. Things might have been different had he been a bit fresher at the death.

He did. From memory (of which mine is poor!) he wasn't off for long though.

Nor Buderus' fault that certain posters have elevated his pre SL form on to such a lofty perch just so they can knock him down from it.

Thankfully not all posters will fall for it.

Similar situation to Torres IMO.

Not his fault he was signed for £50m, with the expectation to match is it.

I know, imagine comparing him to Hanley.

Who would do such a thing?

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For one week only (probably)

Leeds substitutions:

1 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (15 mins)
2 - Clarkson replaces Pitts (31 mins)
3 - McShane replaces Buderus (31 mins)
4 - Cross replaces Hauraki (33 mins)
5 - Buderus replaces Bailey (36 mins)
6 - Leuluai replaces Kirke (48 mins)
7 - Bailey replaces Cross (51 mins)
8 - Hauraki replaces Clarkson (53 mins)
9 - Cross replaces Bailey (62 mins)
10 - Kirke replaces Leuluai (67 mins)
11 - Pitts replaces Jones-Buchanan (68 mins)
12 - Jones-Buchanan replaces Cross (75 mins)

Which roughly equates to the following game-time:

Backs (Webb, Watkins, Ablett, Senior, Hall, Sinfield, Burrow) - 80 mins each

Leuluai - 34 mins
Buderus - 75 mins
Bailey - 47 mins
Pitts - 43 mins
Hauraki - 60 mins
Jones-Buchanan - 73 mins

McShane - 49 mins
Clarkson - 22 mins
Kirke - 46 mins
Cross - 36 mins

One week only? That's a shame, it would certainly add to the Opta Stats thread if we know the "minutes played" by each Leeds player as it would put their stats into some kind of perspective.

Go on, you know you want to....

these are the most relative stats imo tvoc
surely they give a truer indication of a players match stats do they not?

I agree fellas, it would be useful to include them. Trouble is I could only do so from the full match Sky coverage and obviously that's only available the weeks Leeds are featured.

Anyone who doesn't think this is time consuming should give it a go for themselves.

Is it more time consuming for you to do, or for all of us to read?

I never had you down as selfish tvoc...

It was a Burrow hospital pass to Cross resulting in a knock on that gave Wigan the field position to score one of their comeback tries.

It wasn't a great pass but it certainly should have been taken as Cross himself acknowledged by apologising to his team mates for not doing so.

Are we still talking about this?

Yes he had a good game. That on its own doesn't justify his existence. But neither does his lack of MOM's indicate that he isn't a very valuable member of the team

I wonder how Buderus' MOTM record compares to Matt Diskin's since 2009?

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I'd guess the former depending on your reading skilzzs.

It takes around 2 hours a game in total to update the Leeds stats from the Opta website, take baseling readings for the next opponents, update between two spreadsheets, copy to paper, then input into a word document to finally copy and paste on to here.

I'd be doing most of that anyway for my own records but it probably still takes 30 minutes or so extra to create the weekly thread for on here.

Of course I fully appreciate that in the end that's my choice as I don't have to do that and nobody has to read it.

As nobody has claimed Diskin to be a legend of the game comparable to Ellery Hanley (guffaw) his influence on his teams should quite rightly pale when compared to the legendary Danny B.

Disco doers have a Harry Sunderland and a Leeds player of the year in a title winning season to his name. I sincerely hope Danny B can go on to emulate Matthew in that regard.

Would be pretty darn funny if that happened this year. Especially if Bradford finish outside of the top 8 again.

But we do, my dear boy, we really do.

It would be wonderful if that happened but what has Bradford's finish got to do with it?

Yes that would be an odd thing to do.

The analogy stating Hanley's qualities were not defined by GB's inability to win an Ashes series still holds true however.

If you believe I went any further than that perhaps you should re-read what I put on page 2.

Who says I was guffawing at you?

That clears that up then ...... sort of.

Another big finish from Danny on Saturday. Finishing the game with a penalty and a knock on because, just like the week before, he was completely gassed.

It may be his coaches fault but he's just not up to 76 mins a game.

I eagerly await a plethora of posters pointing out the errors were someone else's fault or That Danny coolly calculated the penalties and saved us from even greater catastrophe by knocking on or giving penalties away.

I've noted a few threads having a go at other players so I am sure on balance there has been some criticism of Buderus's errors somewhere.

Ahh the memories of buderus trotting around in that 9 jersey through 2011 will last with me for a lifetime.

I didnt think anyone had a great game on saturday other than Watkins in attack and broken running and Bailey. I initially thought that Buderus looked better playing the full game but now not so sure. Didnt have a great game tbh.
But I cant have an agenda aginst him I have too much on my plate with Burrow and Senior

Just observe and comment. Ignore the name of his back. It's those who blindly defend his every negative contribution that have an agenda.