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| I bet Yorkshire Radio has never had a response like this to any of it's threads.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Is it a Knee Jerk, or is it real concern about the continuing trends that we don't seem able to fix?
I am not taking any notice of Keith and his blatant attempts to troll the board (shame really as if he could be bothered he could contribute with a good view of the current situation), I am worried that the current situation we are in will not be fixed by persisting with the current style of play and with the current coaching team, although I am willing to give them this season to rectify the current failures.
Are you happy with the progress (or lack thereof) that we are showing from week to week at the moment?'"
Fwiw BR i can see yours and others concerns at the repeated errors and poor passing/defence we've witnessed at times this year.
I think Brian Mc has given the go-ahead to off-load etc etc but he can't be blamed for seasoned pro's making basic mistakes ,hospital passes and trying to score off every set.
He deserves at least this year imo and the chance to have a full squad available before we write him or the team off imo.
Sinfield in YEP last week touched on the players taking responsibillity for their mistakes and i think that's about right.
loads of work to be done still but we can see they are trying to play a different way to what we produced under Bluey and when not if we cut out the mistakes we can match anyone.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If I were you I'd stop trying to defend the indefensible by claiming that any input to this thread is only valid if you listened to the game on the radio, rather than attended in person.
It's making you look quite foolish, which is a shame when you are very capable of having a sensible discussion on the merits (or lack of) regarding Leeds current predicament.'"
I'll give that response the consideration it deserves.
So, back to your worries. I repeat, what are the "continuing trends we don't seem to be able to fix" and how did they manifest themselves today?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If I were you I'd stop trying to defend the indefensible by claiming that any input to this thread is only valid if you listened to the game on the radio, rather than attended in person.
It's making you look quite foolish, which is a shame when you are very capable of having a sensible discussion on the merits (or lack of) regarding Leeds current predicament.'"
You also appear to be missing the point entirely.
Relax.
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| BTW, for those who did actually see the game, how did Kirke do? Was he busy with the ball this week?
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"You also appear to be missing the point entirely.
Relax.'"
In fairness to him his mind is all over the place. He's still very worried about the "continuing trends we don't seem to be able to fix" and not seeing today's game hasn't helped him allay those worries.
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| Quote ="G1"What are the "continuing trends we don't seem to be able to fix" and how did they manifest themselves today?'"
Inability to hold the ball and build pressure.
Lack of discipline with the ball avoiding throwing "miracle passes" which frequently lead to turning over possession.
Lack of discipline in defence, not conceding too many penalties. I see dissent raised it's head again today.
Lack of structure to attacking play.
All of the above were abundantly clear from the radio commentary, regardless of Keith's agenda, and none of them are contradicted by the comments of those who went to the game and have subsequently given their views.
If you want to look for a positive, we hald the worst attacking team in the league to one try, but gave them so much possession on our line that's a miracle.
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| I think the OP on the "Wigan" thread tells us all much of what we should think of his views on most things SL related
Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Very impressive backs-to-the-wall performance away at Huddersfield despite a number of key absentees. Their intensity in defence and clinical style of play in attack is both admirable and a joy to watch. Most definitely preferable to the agenda-driven powder-puff nonsense doing the rounds about lots of passing and laissez faire attitude to completion rates and errors.
Barring severe misfortune and an injury crisis of unparalleled magnitude kicking in, it's difficult to envisage any other team challenging them for the SL crown this season.
Looking forward to seeing them in action at Headingley in a couple of weeks time.'"
I do agree with his last sentence though
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"
The attacking from Leeds in the first half was worse than anything I have seen from them for quite a few years. The negativity at half time in the stand was very strong. Yes the defence stood firm but the Wakefield attack never looked dangerous. I was stood next to some Wakefield fans and they couldn't believe how poor Leeds we're attack and discipline wise. We posted some points in the second half and didn't let Wakefield in but all in all that was a very bad performance from Leeds. The scoreline, which flattered Leeds, looks to have brushed the poor display under the carpet.'"
Can't disagree with your views at all
Big improvement needed next week then against Wigan
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| Quote ="G1"BTW, for those who did actually see the game, how did Kirke do? Was he busy with the ball this week?'"
Did'nt play due to a stomach bug.
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| Hilarious talking to a couple of Wakey fans after the game. They were perplexed as to how the ref can get all the calls right in the first half, and get them all wrong in the second.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Did'nt play due to a stomach bug.'"
Ah. Hope it's not too serious but as a concern for the lads health no point rushing him back too soon.
Give him till about November.
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| Quote ="G1"BTW, for those who did actually see the game, how did Kirke do? Was he busy with the ball this week?'"
He didn't play. You'd have known this had you listened to the commentary
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Did'nt play due to a stomach bug.'"
What about Ali?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Inability to hold the ball and build pressure.
Lack of discipline with the ball avoiding throwing "miracle passes" which frequently lead to turning over possession.
Lack of discipline in defence, not conceding too many penalties. I see dissent raised it's head again today.
Lack of structure to attacking play.
All of the above were abundantly clear from the radio commentary, regardless of Keith's agenda, and none of them are contradicted by the comments of those who went to the game and have subsequently given their views.
If you want to look for a positive, we hald the worst attacking team in the league to one try, but gave them so much possession on our line that's a miracle.'"
Ah, I see. Well, try not to let it worry you. Worrying won't change anything.
I wish I could help you but I didn't go and didn't listen.
Still, in simple terms we conceded only 6 points and won a game so there's a couple of trends broken if you need cheering up.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Hilarious talking to a couple of Wakey fans after the game. They were perplexed as to how the ref can get all the calls right in the first half, and get them all wrong in the second.'"
Had the same walking out of the ground mate he was spot on until someone from Leeds "had a word" at half time ,we did chuckle!
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"He didn't play. You'd have known this had you listened to the commentary
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Probably not actually. If you listen to the commentary when he is playing how many times does his name get mentioned?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"What about Ali?'"
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| Great, now you have said that, I look forward to a really close game against Wigan, and Leeds emerging victorious after putting in a vastly improved performance.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Great, now you have said that, I look forward to a really close game against Wigan, and Leeds emerging victorious after putting in a vastly improved performance.'"
There you go. I made your week better. No need for thanks, lunch will do.
Of course, making your weekend is someone else's responsibility so don't moan at me if we get trounced Friday night.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Well that’s one for TVOC to look up. When where Leeds last kept scoreless in the first half in super league – if ever?'"
Harlequins RL kept us scoreless until the 79th minute in April 09 at Headingley.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"All of the above were abundantly clear from the radio commentary, regardless of Keith's agenda, and none of them are contradicted by the comments of those who went to the game and have subsequently given their views.'"
What agenda?
This was a thread which initially contained contributions by people who were listening to commentary of the game on the radio.
At no stage did it ever pretend to be anything other than that, despite the sanctimonious appearance of one particular individual who decided to derail the thread with his [i"I attended the game therefore..."[/i agenda.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"What agenda?
This was a thread which initially contained contributions by people who were listening to commentary of the game on the radio.
At no stage did it ever pretend to be anything other than that, despite the sanctimonious appearance of one particular individual who decided to derail the thread with his [i"I attended the game therefore..."[/i agenda.'"
Nice effort. Had you and our other radio experts been complaining about the quality of the commentary, you might have a point. But you weren't, you were commenting about the Leeds performance.
Those who went have, quite rightly quashed your agenda and those who dance to the tune of your flute.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Great, now you have said that, I look forward to a really close game against Wigan, and Leeds emerging victorious after putting in a vastly improved performance.'"
Relax.
It's only Wigan next week.
And if you take notice of our resident five year old behaviourist, Wigan are shot to pieces and Warrington are now the real deal. His ability to reach such a rapid conclusion on the basis of one solitary game or performance is a knee-jerking joy to behold
OTOH, he could be just posting with other agendae in mind
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| "You twist and turn, like a twisty turny thing" Keith.
So nice to see that you have obviously dropped your previous trolling persona in favour of a new more genuine bona fide version.
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