This Burrow bashing is ridiculous he did'nt have the greatest year last year but spent plenty of it on the sidelines and when fit was part of a team struggling for confidence and form.
Prior to that he's more than proved his worth to Leeds and that he can match any 7 in this Comp.
As for Robinson he's that good at 7 the Giants went out bought the over-rated Brough.
If you highlight Robbie as inconsistent then the same can be levelled at Mono-Brow who for all his alleged talents plays for the Giants and when avaialable not 1 of Wigan ,Leeds ,Wire or Saints tried to sign him.
Now don't get me wrong the Giants are on the up and very much a threat imo but how many times did he open up an injury hit Wigan on Friday night?
Robbie has been there done that more than once and to be again writing him off 6 games in when he's been far from our worst player is OTT and absolutely ridiculous.
Now of course we all have our own opinions on players. coaches and performances but lets not go OTT writing a player off as successful as Burrow off 6 games into a season playing behind a beaten pack in an injury hit team and lets look at the bigger picture when assessing his creating abillities how trys come from the back off his quick dummy half play ,his half breaks or the number of defenders he attracts with ball in hand and he's still one of the best tacklers at the club aswell.
Is he as good as he was 4/5 yrs ago? maybe maybe not but the comp has also improved and he's still a major threat in this comp and his shortcomings/mistakes can also be attributed to those around him.
Still the no1 7 at the club imo and behind a dominant pack he will rip teams apart ala Bulls ,Hull and Salford and he still caused ST's problems in the 2nd half.

I like Robbie as I think he is whole hearted and has offered Leeds outstanding service. However, I feel that we have missed a plan B type of player, Brough offers you this with some incisive passing and probing kicking which we have been on the wrong end of for a number of years. Danny Mc and Rob are too similar and not complimentary.
If forced to select between the two I would select Brough ahead of Rob and think this will be mirrored in the England selection.

Agree that he is the number 1 7 at the club but that is because he is probably the only 7. Yes i wanted to give mcshane a go there. Think it would be good to experiment and see if he can play there as if robbie gets injuried he might have to and IMO has a better kicking game than robbie.

Not writing him off but i have not been a fan for a few years now not just on the evidence of the past 6 games. Again just sticking with him because of past sucess is also not a grat way to go for me.

The thing i do like about Burrow is his heart, he does get stuck in especially in defence, I think if some of our past props had his heart a la feather etc they could have been great.

IMO it shouldnt even be a competition. Brough was scotland captin. I wish we were more like football in this respect. Brough pinned his colours to the scotland flag, realising he wont get to play the Aussies switches teams. Shouldnt be allowed to happen.

A lot of those sentiments you could probably apply to Keith Senior.

Heres the advert going out on TV this week during the breaks of Coronation Street and Emmerdale link is in the trin site if you wish to view it. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/ Looks pretty good for the TV

Heres the advert going out on TV this week during the breaks of Coronation Street and Emmerdale link is in the trin site if you wish to view it. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/ Looks pretty good for the TV

I don't thibnk so TVOC.
From my own pov Senior is way past his best and that shows more in his performances than anything Burrow has shown or not which may be the case.
Senior in his pomp was the most destructive centre in SL imo and also defensively strong and now he's far from either and thats highlighted ten fold when the team is struggling and players like Charnley (last year away at HKR) Webster , Gibson are having joy taking him on and when he can't destroy players like Briers and Briggs with ball in hand.
I also think Burrow has performed MORE than Senior in the last 18mths and we should of approached Big Keith the same way TS did with Barrie Mc.
Of course nothing would give me more pleasure than seeing the Bald destroyer turning back the clock ala Wire away last year but fear those days are long gone and those efforts too few and far between.

If you play like you did against Saints and we play like we did against Hull you will beat us fairly easily. I'm not knocking our performance versus Hull, it was a decent game and the effort was huge but not IMO the same level as yours was.

As far as I'm concerned we will need to step up a fair way to compete. I actually thought Leeds played well, about as good as you can it's just that Saints seemed inspired. Just because you lost doesn't mean you were poor, far from it. That being my opinion I at least know what we are aiming for.

Don't think we can string two wins together in SL at present certainly not against a quality side, see you running away with it in the second half. If we keep you under 40 I would consider that a result.

My opinions of Burrow have nothing to do with how the rest of the team are performing (i'm assuming you included me in this because you stated Robinson) and it's the same opinion I have been putting down on here for the last 3 years at least. The better players adapt to the game around them. He has failed to do this and has been massively left behind. McGuire on the other hand has contined to improve year on year. If we could get a good 6 in at the club McGuire would be my 7. Chase would be my prefered 6 but for the good of the game I am glad he has stayed at Cas.

We ask a Cas fan.

I'm sure your team won't be as bad as they were against Saints.

You might find this useful, re, traffic disruption on Sunday. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... or-sunday/

You might find this useful, re, traffic disruption on Sunday. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... or-sunday/

Think she was on about that s**thole you call a ground

Quote ="LyndsayGill"You might find this useful, re, traffic disruption on Sunday. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... or-sunday/'" Cheers for the heads up!

Quote ="LyndsayGill"You might find this useful, re, traffic disruption on Sunday. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/2011 ... or-sunday/'" Cheers for the heads up!

Think he was being smart. Too smart for you!

Nah, I got it. As it's only Wakefield we are playing this weekend though i'm sure we could play just as bad and still beat you by 20.

If it's not Senior it's Burrow. Some people live in a dreamworld.

Senior will not be dropped and shouldn't be. Burrow will not be dropped and shouldn't be.

This year the problems have been in the pack, mainly due to injuries. What gets me is that people like Watkins have done nothing more than senior, in fact he has made a lot more silly errors and his defence is far worse but Keith gets bagged.

Burrow organises the team, gives it structure. We as fans can't see it but the players and coach all know how valuable he is to the team.

I keep saying it but why would you stick Keith in pack when we have no better centre.

As for Mcshane at 7 give over. Why people insist on putting teams on here with Webb at 6, Mcshane at 7 and Keith in the pack is beyond me. Thank god you are not the coaches.

I'm adding you to my friends list. If someone can make me laugh this much they deserve to be there!

I've just read it again, it pretty much fits ..... except you appear prepared to make excuses for one player and not the other.

He'll be the first to admit he isn't pacy enough to play Scrum Half at Super League level and asking a player who's spent the majority of the time he's represented Leeds at Hooker to play at Scrum Half is something i wouldn't expect the coaching staff to do unless it was a last resort.

Do you have posters of your infallible heroes, Senior and Burrow up on your bedroom wall ?

Did you boycott the team when McShane played 7 last season and Senior played second row ? Was that not a coach that made those decisions ?

What is JJB's position then ? Delaney's ? Presumably because they haven't stuck to their orginal allotted positions the present coach should be sacked for daring to move them ?

It'll be interesting to see when we have a fully fit squad if Brian McDermott picks the team on form or reputation, I'd go for same old same old reputation.

Travel info for all Leeds fans travelling over: www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16239.php M62 Normaton bypass I'm guessing is junction 31...seems straight forward enough.

Travel info for all Leeds fans travelling over: www.therhinos.co.uk/news/16239.php M62 Normaton bypass I'm guessing is junction 31...seems straight forward enough.

Probably yes. We dont mind.

Anyone heard about Bailey, Delaney, Kylie, Smith? I know that all or some were due back for sunday, but i have not heard anything since? do we think they will all be back