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| Matt Adamson to be announced over the next few days apparently.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Matt Adamson to be announced over the next few days apparently.'"
although i'm not jumping for joy with this possible announcement,i will give whoever get's the job my full support.
i would have preffered a former back to take on this role,dunneman would have been a good appointment imo,he was always a player that could take the game by the "scruff of the neck",he was also very tactically aware of how to direct play successsfully.
dunner's obviously has a very good position at the newcastle knights at present but you do get the feeling that he will be back at the club in the not too distant future.
i just hope that there's going to be enough tactical awareness in the camp to sort out our backline and to bring some new ideas to the team if matty gets the job.
can 2 former forwards do this?
only time will tell im afraid
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"although i'm not jumping for joy with this possible announcement,i will give whoever get's the job my full support.
i would have preffered a former back to take on this role,dunneman would have been a good appointment imo,he was always a player that could take the game by the "scruff of the neck",he was also very tactically aware of how to direct play successsfully.
dunner's obviously has a very good position at the newcastle knights at present but you do get the feeling that he will be back at the club in the not too distant future.
i just hope that there's going to be enough tactical awareness in the camp to sort out our backline and to bring some new ideas to the team if matty gets the job.
can 2 former forwards do this?
only time will tell im afraid'"
I agree only time will tell. I would have loved AD but he has a good position At the knights and is probably destined for big things. I always liked adamson as a player no frills no nonsense player as was mcdermott if they can sort the back line out who knows?
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| Quote ="Ferdy"I agree only time will tell. I would have loved AD but he has a good position At the knights and is probably destined for big things. I always liked adamson as a player no frills no nonsense player as was mcdermott if they can sort the back line out who knows?'"
are they 2 of a kind?
as they both played the game in the same way imo
i'm concerned that our backline will be left to their own devices yet again!
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"are they 2 of a kind?
as they both played the game in the same way imo
i'm concerned that our backline will be left to their own devices yet again!'"
Yes I don't disagree with you there I have the same concerns however just because they played the same may not mean they coach the same. But again we won't really know till we are into it and it's either working well or the s$*t has hit the fan
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| Adamson is currently a greeter in a restaurant is that the best we can attract as a coach - it would be a disaster.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Adamson is currently a greeter in a restaurant'"
Actually he's the manager but as per usual you pass [ish[/iit off as fact.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Adamson is currently a greeter in a restaurant is that the best we can attract as a coach - it would be a disaster.
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I dunno, Martin pickles at the flying pizza will be coining it in again if he is to return.
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| It's important that an assistant coach ought to be intellectually and tactically inferior to the coach himself.
In McDermott's case, Adamson is one of the few available that might just fit the bill.
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| Personally, I think Adamson would have a great effect on the club. Would have preferred Dunneman, definately, but Adamson knows the club was part of the first success, and I think he would work well with the new coach.
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| Just don't let him do the team talks before big games....
Can't help but think this is not the right way to go if it's true.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Just don't let him do the team talks before big games....
Can't help but think this is not the right way to go if it's true.'"
What is it that's so wrong if true though?
I have seen on here Lowes mentioned, why would Lowes be a better option for us than Adamson? Lowes made no secret of the hatred he had for Leeds because they released him. I would rather have a guy who thinks highly about the club than some turd who felt hard done by.
Sure Adamson was very big on his cheerleading instead of concentrating on his rugby in his last year, but perhaps that could be adjusted to be motivating and getting players motivated his one of the requirements of a coach.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What is it that's so wrong if true though?
I have seen on here Lowes mentioned, why would Lowes be a better option for us than Adamson? Lowes made no secret of the hatred he had for Leeds because they released him. I would rather have a guy who thinks highly about the club than some turd who felt hard done by.
Sure Adamson was very big on his cheerleading instead of concentrating on his rugby in his last year, but perhaps that could be adjusted to be motivating and getting players motivated his one of the requirements of a coach.'"
Is that what he did at Penrith, where there was a dressing-room rebellion insisting he be sacked, after they finished bottom then near-bottom of the NRL in his two years there?
Since then, nobody in Australia has gone near him for a coaching job. McDermott and Adamson would be a bad-cop/bad-cop combination.
(BTW I also think Lowes would be a terrible choice, judging on his coaching record).
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| I'd take McNamara over Adamson
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Is that what he did at Penrith, where there was a dressing-room rebellion insisting he be sacked, after they finished bottom then near-bottom of the NRL in his two years there?
Since then, nobody in Australia has gone near him for a coaching job. McDermott and Adamson would be a bad-cop/bad-cop combination.
(BTW I also think Lowes would be a terrible choice, judging on his coaching record).'"
Personally, I am from the school of people make mistakes and deserve second chances, probably why I was so keen on signing Monaghan.
Infact, personally I prefer taking people on who have previously made mistakes, because hopefully they don't do it again.
I aint for one minute saying Adamson is my preferred choice for the role. But I would certainly prefer him to someone like Lowes or Jowitt.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I aint for one minute saying Adamson is my preferred choice for the role. But I would certainly prefer him to someone like Lowes or Jowitt. '"
That's pretty much my view too
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| So let me get this straight.
The concensus is that we'd rather appoint a bloke who is out of the game running a restaurant and who failed dismally in his last attempt at top level coaching, ahead of someone who has been part of two successful coaching setups at club level and part of the England coaching team on two occasions?
What is it Wayne Bennett says about listening to the fans again...
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Going by some of the names discussed I wouldn't be surprised if the new assistants haven't yet been mentioned on this thread.
However Lowes seems to have done ok at Warrington as an assistant, better than Adamson at Penrith anyway.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"However Lowes seems to have done ok at Warrington as an assistant, better than Adamson at Penrith anyway.'"
To be fair the cones there are much lighter than the old type.
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| No one thought of promoting from within. Might be a bit left field but what about Sinfield as a player coach?
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| Quote ="bewildered"No one thought of promoting from within. Might be a bit left field but what about Sinfield as a player coach?'"
With McGuire out of the side for the start of 2011 at least, he's got enough on his plate as pivot, main goal and tactical kicker and captain without having to worry about coaching during the week as well.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"So let me get this straight.
The concensus is that we'd rather appoint a bloke who is out of the game running a restaurant and who failed dismally in his last attempt at top level coaching, ahead of someone who has been part of two successful coaching setups at club level and part of the England coaching team on two occasions?
What is it Wayne Bennett says about listening to the fans again...'"
Why be so condesending about it? Why not throw a name into the ring or something. I've seen posters on here put down Daryl Powell and rumours about his time at the club, yet he is a hundred times the coach of James Lowes, and with a better record. I bet you wouldn't want him either?
Just because posters said they would prefer Adamson to Lowes, doesn't mean that is the preferred choice.
But just for clarity, the club deemed Cummins and Poching not good enough, yet their records are far superior to Lowes. Personally I would back the clubs choice rather than make out that one assistant is the reson Wire have won a couple of challenge cups.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What is it that's so wrong if true though?
I have seen on here Lowes mentioned, why would Lowes be a better option for us than Adamson? Lowes made no secret of the hatred he had for Leeds because they released him. I would rather have a guy who thinks highly about the club than some turd who felt hard done by.
Sure Adamson was very big on his cheerleading instead of concentrating on his rugby in his last year, but perhaps that could be adjusted to be motivating and getting players motivated his one of the requirements of a coach.'"
Parking the Cheerleading aspect, IMO Adamson has no attributes that would compliment BMD. He has very limited experience, and does not have any current NRL "thinking" to bring over with him.
I don't believe that Lowes would be the best choice, but at least he was a clever footballer, not something you could level at Adamson, who split whatever camp he has been involved in.
We need a coach who is either currently working as a number 2, or someone with vast experience and can not only act as a support to the players, but also to help mentor BMD. If we are to take someone who has just finished playing then it should be a halfback or hooker. I don't believe it will be the case, but I wonder if Cunningham would be interested?
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Parking the Cheerleading aspect, IMO Adamson has no attributes that would compliment BMD. He has very limited experience, and does not have any current NRL "thinking" to bring over with him.
I don't believe that Lowes would be the best choice, but at least he was a clever footballer, not something you could level at Adamson, who split whatever camp he has been involved in.
We need a coach who is either currently working as a number 2, or someone with vast experience and can not only act as a support to the players, but also to help mentor BMD. If we are to take someone who has just finished playing then it should be a halfback or hooker. I don't believe it will be the case, but I wonder if Cunningham would be interested?'"
But your last bit goes against everything you say in your first bit. It's been proven and said many times before that good players do not necessarily make good coaches. Its also been proven many times that coaches (especially younger ones) learn as time passes. Would we write off an 18 year old player because of one mistake? and if not why would we write off a mid 30's coach because of one?
Like I say, I am not advocating Adamson as assistant, but I think he would be a damn site better than giving credit for. And IMO I actually think the club needs a bad cop/ bad cop rather than good/bad, as some tough decisions will need to be made over next 18 months.
Your Cunningham example would fit well with the under 20's position, but any assistant coach for me needs to be older than the oldest players in the team.
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