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| Good Luck Danny, wishing you a speedy recovery, shocking injury.
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| I'm certain we've been cursed this season... any injury we've had has nearly always been a serious one.. I've never known owt like it. I'm so proud of the team for what they've gone through this season regardless of the result in a weeks and a bit's time. I know we were poor at Wembley but it can happen to anyone. Get back soon Danny and make up for this year's dissapointment. Best No 6 in SL. Come you Rhinos... Champions until the end !!!!
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| I disagree with the idea of playing Webb at stand-off. This is a semi final we are talking about here - not the time to start experimenting with untried (or barely tried) half-back combos.
What is JJB's expected recovery? If he is back, I'd fully expect Sinfield to be at 6.
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| hope the recovery is quick and successful nobody deserves it
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"I disagree with the idea of playing Webb at stand-off. This is a semi final we are talking about here - not the time to start experimenting with untried (or barely tried) half-back combos.'"
Don't be daft. Webb plays like a stand-off when he joins the attacking line already, and his passing skills are second to none in the Leeds team IMO (although sadly McGuire's passing was top notch against Wigan). I don't think it will be a big disruption to accommodate him there. The move also has the advantage in that we get to see Smith play in his arguably most effective position. Webb has also played there before for Leeds so it is hardly going to be experimenting with an untried option.
The alternative of playing Sinfield at stand-off means we will have to find room for an extra forward when we are already down to the bare bones, instead of utilising a proven match-winner in previous play-offs. I don't think Lee Smith has quite hit the form of previous seasons but I'd rather him play full-back than not play at all.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Don't be daft. Webb plays like a stand-off when he joins the attacking line already, and his passing skills are second to none in the Leeds team IMO (although sadly McGuire's passing was top notch against Wigan). I don't think it will be a big disruption to accommodate him there. The move also has the advantage in that we get to see Smith play in his arguably most effective position. Webb has also played there before for Leeds so it is hardly going to be experimenting with an untried option.
The alternative of playing Sinfield at stand-off means we will have to find room for an extra forward when we are already down to the bare bones, instead of utilising a proven match-winner in previous play-offs. I don't think Lee Smith has quite hit the form of previous seasons but I'd rather him play full-back than not play at all.'"
From past history Sinfield will be playing 6 with JJB returning into the pack.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"I disagree with the idea of playing Webb at stand-off. This is a semi final we are talking about here - not the time to start experimenting with untried (or barely tried) half-back combos.
What is JJB's expected recovery? If he is back, I'd fully expect Sinfield to be at 6.'"
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| Quote ="rpw"I'm certain we've been cursed this season... any injury we've had has nearly always been a serious one..'"
As opposed to being blessed with a comparatively injury-free number of seasons prior to this one?
You'll be suggesting Leeds are unlucky next.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"As opposed to being blessed with a comparatively injury-free number of seasons prior to this one?
You'll be suggesting Leeds are unlucky next.'"
Hi kKeith,
Feeling contrite about this comment yet?
Quote McGuire often displays effeminate tendencies, cries wolf and screams for a stretcher when there's very little wrong with him.'"
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| Quote ="G1"Hi kKeith,
Feeling contrite about this comment yet?
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[url=http://viewtopic.php?p=15529741#p15529741Nope[/url
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Don't be daft. Webb plays like a stand-off when he joins the attacking line already, and his passing skills are second to none in the Leeds team IMO (although sadly McGuire's passing was top notch against Wigan). I don't think it will be a big disruption to accommodate him there. The move also has the advantage in that we get to see Smith play in his arguably most effective position. Webb has also played there before for Leeds so it is hardly going to be experimenting with an untried option.
The alternative of playing Sinfield at stand-off means we will have to find room for an extra forward when we are already down to the bare bones, instead of utilising a proven match-winner in previous play-offs. I don't think Lee Smith has quite hit the form of previous seasons but I'd rather him play full-back than not play at all.'"
Then let Webb play in the role that he is accustomed to. I agree that Webb, like most modern fullbacks, often adopts a "third half-back" role so let's persist with that.
This is going to be a game that is going to require control and experience in the key positions. I'd be far more trusting of Sinfield to put in a solid pressure relieving kick than I would Webb.
The forward pack are already rotating, we may well have JJB back in the team - the disruption would be minimised by pulling Sinfield out of the back row.
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| Hope he recovers quickly. All the best to him.
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"[url=http://viewtopic.php?p=15529741#p15529741Nope[/url'"
OK, if you do not wish to retain any crumb of credibility whatsoever that is fine.
You're now categorized as the kind of poster who makes crass, false alleagtions about a player feigning injury then doesn't have the class to admit he was wrong.
Duly noted.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Then let Webb play in the role that he is accustomed to. I agree that Webb, like most modern fullbacks, often adopts a "third half-back" role so let's persist with that.
This is going to be a game that is going to require control and experience in the key positions. I'd be far more trusting of Sinfield to put in a solid pressure relieving kick than I would Webb.
The forward pack are already rotating, we may well have JJB back in the team - the disruption would be minimised by pulling Sinfield out of the back row.'"
I can see that this makes sense. Webb may simply have to play a more pivotal role from fullback.
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| All the best Danny - He has been fantastic this year...!!
Cruel way to end his season
The reason RFL Supporters are way better than Football is because we are like one big family, usually when an injury like this happens to a player the RFL community get behind him and wish him all the best. I'm sorry to say I was ashamed by the remarks from some utter scum these past few days (Namely Wigan 'fans')
You lost the game, which your clearly upset about but taking it out on a player of his class is NOT the answer!
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| Quote ="I am a Southstander"All the best Danny - He has been fantastic this year...!!
Cruel way to end his season
The reason RFL Supporters are way better than Football is because we are like one big family, usually when an injury like this happens to a player the RFL community get behind him and wish him all the best. I'm sorry to say I was ashamed by the remarks from some utter scum these past few days (Namely Wigan 'fans')
You lost the game, which your clearly upset about but taking it out on a player of his =#FF0000class is NOT the answer!'"
I am most certainly not a W1g4n fan
What Mcguire did on sunday showed a lack of ' Class '
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| Quote ="Starbug"I am most certainly not a W1g4n fan
What Mcguire did on sunday showed a lack of ' Class ''"
Maybe not, but it's good to see you've imported your anti-Leeds agenda from the VT.
What McGuire did is what any other professional player in that same position would have done. He helped his team to a vital play-off win by committing a professional foul and preventing the opposition from scoring a match-winning try.
I suppose you're going to try and tell me that in the old days the likes of Vince Karalius or Eric Ashton would have simply waved Carmont through and allowed him to score, just to preserve the spirit of the game?
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| Quote ="Starbug"What Mcguire did on sunday showed a lack of ' Class ''"
You show me a player who wouldn't have done the same thing.
McGuire did what he had to do for Leeds to get to their goal - win the game.
Good on him.
There's other factors at hand:
Wigan were leading 14-0
Brain dead Tomkins gifting 2 points
Pat Richards should have done better with OTHER kicks
daft Leeds - shouldnt have gifted the ball back with early kick - should have rolled out the set.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Maybe not, but it's good to see you've imported your anti-Leeds agenda from the VT.
What McGuire did is what any other professional player in that same position would have done. He helped his team to a vital play-off win by committing a professional foul and preventing the opposition from scoring a match-winning try.
I suppose you're going to try and tell me that in the old days the likes of Vince Karalius or Eric Ashton would have simply waved Carmont through and allowed him to score, just to preserve the spirit of the game?'"
Wouldnt matter who he played for , and i'v no doubt that a certain Mr Murphy would have done exactly the same in the circumstances , then again Alex always was a cheating barsteward
Difference is he would admit to it
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Don't be daft. Webb plays like a stand-off when he joins the attacking line already, and his passing skills are second to none in the Leeds team IMO (although sadly McGuire's passing was top notch against Wigan). I don't think it will be a big disruption to accommodate him there. The move also has the advantage in that we get to see Smith play in his arguably most effective position. Webb has also played there before for Leeds so it is hardly going to be experimenting with an untried option.
The alternative of playing Sinfield at stand-off means we will have to find room for an extra forward when we are already down to the bare bones, instead of utilising a proven match-winner in previous play-offs. I don't think Lee Smith has quite hit the form of previous seasons but I'd rather him play full-back than not play at all.'"
Agreed, added to that Webb has been very poor this season at FB by his own high standards.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Wouldnt matter who he played for , and i'v no doubt that a certain Mr Murphy would have done exactly the same in the circumstances , then again Alex always was a cheating barsteward
Difference is he would admit to it'"
Oh, so that's alright then. It's ok to be a cheat, providing you admit to it and you're a Leigh legend?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Oh, so that's alright then. It's ok to be a cheat, providing you admit to it and you're a Leigh legend?'"
So its alright to be a Leeds legend and cheat but dont admit it ?
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Quote ="Starbug"So its alright to be a Leeds legend and cheat but dont admit it ?'"
shouldnt you really be on the Huddersfield board? i mean they were penalised TWICE on Saturday for impeding the chaser after the kick, you must surely have a bone to pick with their 'cheats'
i mean it really is a heinous crime but i dont remember you levelling the same vitriol and or making the same remarks about a certain Chris Hill
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1659
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Quote ="Starbug"So its alright to be a Leeds legend and cheat but dont admit it ?'"
shouldnt you really be on the Huddersfield board? i mean they were penalised TWICE on Saturday for impeding the chaser after the kick, you must surely have a bone to pick with their 'cheats'
i mean it really is a heinous crime but i dont remember you levelling the same vitriol and or making the same remarks about a certain Chris Hill
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1659
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| Quote ="Starbug"So its alright to be a Leeds legend and cheat but dont admit it ?'"
On the grounds that every week the opposition will be doing whatever it takes to win whether it be within the laws or spirit of the laws, I have absolutely no problem with any Leeds player doing exactly the same thing.
You going to answer my question now?
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"shouldnt you really be on the Huddersfield board? i mean they were penalised TWICE on Saturday for impeding the chaser after the kick, you must surely have a bone to pick with their 'cheats'
i mean it really is a heinous crime but i dont remember you levelling the same vitriol and or making the same remarks about a certain Chris Hill
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1659'"
6 minutes , not bad , did somebody ring you up
As i said on the VT , I didn't watch the hudds game , so I've no idea what happened , if you say it happened , then fine
As for Hilly , what was the outome ?
So you admit it , McGuire ' Cheated ' ?
Go on say it , you know you want to
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Quote ="SmokeyTA"shouldnt you really be on the Huddersfield board? i mean they were penalised TWICE on Saturday for impeding the chaser after the kick, you must surely have a bone to pick with their 'cheats'
i mean it really is a heinous crime but i dont remember you levelling the same vitriol and or making the same remarks about a certain Chris Hill
www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplin ... hp?id=1659'"
6 minutes , not bad , did somebody ring you up
As i said on the VT , I didn't watch the hudds game , so I've no idea what happened , if you say it happened , then fine
As for Hilly , what was the outome ?
So you admit it , McGuire ' Cheated ' ?
Go on say it , you know you want to
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