no and from what you write normally I would suggest you are the kind that wouldnt wish that. the point is after he was down for nearly a minute the chant occured. had it been instand or nearly instant no one would bat an eyelid, the fact it took so long is the sticking point. Bad choice and there were a lot of ed of people around us and even people who hate leeds (hull kr fans and saints fans) have raised an issue over what they heard

Get well soon fella, that looks like surgery and a season ender, not good. Hope JP is back though, even for a Wire i wouldn't want him to miss a big day out in Wembley.

Oh, yes, don't get me wrong the timing is the issue and perhaps to an extent the seriousness of the injury has affected your view. However, had it been a normal tackle and the player got up, made a full recovery and it had been sang, would you hold the same point of view? Probably not.

Like I said, I've heard worse and probably will continue to do so. The question is now, are people becoming too petty? You're going to have start penalising every club for every player directed chant they come out with.

ive seen people call lack people w0gs and asian people c00ns. ive seen it and if i saw it tomorrow i'd still be just as shocked and disgusted as i was at that moment in time (im sorry for those vile words, but one instance was my uncle who was targeted so i feel vilified to use the comment). the fact is you dont have to see the worst before, its what happened now. still way of the mark tonight and bang out of order

I concur. However, it does matter. Because if you've heard worse in the past that has gone unpenalised and you will probably hear worse in the future go unpenalised, why should this be made an example of?

no im sorry, i saw the picture posted when i got home, i was as angry about it at the moment in time when we werent sure of the full extent in the ground. the guy was on the floor hardly moving for nearly a minute. me personaly, even if it was lee briers i'd still be worried for the lad if he stays down as we know rugby league lads dont stay down for no reason. please stop making excuses, you may not have been one of them but the fans that did are nothing more than pathetic cretins

I'm not making excuses, just stating how things could have changed your view. I can understand your concern: really I can and I'm certainly not negating the fact that timing and perhaps content was wrong.

I was just as worried to be honest. Everytime I see a player go down my mind goes back to Westerman in the Saints game, last year was it?

Your own players were joining in with it and laughing their s off.

We said, (as a joke) "if you hate Keith senior clap your hands" and who joined in? Ryan Hall of all people. What a cretin that guy is! Scum of rugby league!

Missed out 4 pages of reading so not sure what has been said but yes, completely fair tackle and no-one can have any complaints about it. Wish it wasn't done in last minute of game tho when the game was lost!

It's a blokes game at the end of the day and you have to accept that these things happen, and the players def do too. Gutted that the lad will miss his chance of playing at Wembley. Next year tho...

I hope Burgess is okay and doesn't miss wembley,from a wires fan. Is it official yet that his injuries are so bad he will miss the final? Re: banter and senior in particular. Leeds fans have a "we love you senior" chant. At the game earlier in the season at the HJ,a few of us wire fans sang to him. "We love you senior,because you're old and poo,we love you senior,because we score past you..........." a few minutes later the sod went under the sticks from halfway. That's "banter" I suppose! Cas fans? Never have been and never will be my cup of tea. Mostly hostile,argumentative and aggressive,and it seems they have learned absolutely nothing after being fined for the chants at Garreth Thomas earlier in the season.

While I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying, unfortuately at times Leeds "fans" have failed to cover themselves in glory in this respect. The Walker injury is an example of when things are as they should be. When Eastmond went down at headingley this year with what looked like a pretty serious shoulder injury there was quite a bit of anti Saints chanting in the delay. I remember being seething about it at the time as it gives our club a bad name. I guess all teams have idiots.

On reflection - I'm still not sure that tackle should be legal. I accept that might be a reaction to the injury but is that a bad thing? Surely we should be trying to limit serious injuries as much as possible. I'm not buying that the same injury occurs if the young lad has a little think about tackling him before the contact instead of just running into him. All those people who say they don't want to take big hits out of the game - you can still still deliver massive hits while wrapping your arms around the player.

My final concern is with the player, who must have felt the contact and known it was fairly serious, especially when Burgess was lying still on the floor, yet still proceeded to jump around like an idiot.
A) He looked a for celebrating like that when his team had been battered
B) He knew he'd hit him hard with his head, he knew he was lying still and motionless
Completely unecessary reaction

100%

There was nothing illegal in the tackle, Yes it was reckless, But it was within the laws of the game, And there will be no punishment to the player

As for the chants, There was nothing wrong AT ALL. Some fans need to get a grip, Its the first thing Cas had to cheer all night, And every single fan who chanted light heartedly while Luke was treated to, Applauded him off, And i know, As i checked that they did

Nobody wants to see a player badly injured, but every RL fan wants to see your players KO someone, Just not cause serious injury

Looks like he is a mess, and wont play at Wembley, Which is a massive shame, But he will come back bigger and better, And count this as one of those RL injuries,

End of

Its the unpalatable side of the Big Daft Lads syndrome, you'll see the same behaviour in every town centre after throwing out time every weekend.

You were correct in your first para, but way off the mark in the one I've highlighted - it may be a primary reason for you to watch RL matches but I think you are in a small minority if you only go to watch one or more players be knocked unconscious.

And its not possible to cause a loss of consciousness without causing serious injury - the very act of losing consciousness is a serious injury in itself regardless of how quickly the victim recovers.

You tool.

You condone what was in your words a reckless tackle which has caused serious injury.

You condone a set of morons chanting anti Leeds songs etc, while a player was down obviously seriously injured.

You think every fan wants to see opposing players knocked out.

I'm 100% sure this is not the case, I'd never wish for any player to be knocked out or badly injured in any way and I'm sure there are lots of other fans who agree.

Ok, KO was the wrong word. Rugby League is a mans sport, Every RL fan i know loves the big shots, And all the players do too, The reckless thing was, He didnt try wrapping his arms round him, To in effect make a "tackle", but he played within the laws of the game, And thats all the players can do

As for the chants, I didnt hear many anti Leeds ones, Just lots supporting Jonny Walker, Who i am sure, After a minute or so after the shot, Was feeling pretty bad for himself


Call me a tool, I dont care. I enjoyed the shot. The massive shame, Is it caused a player a serious injury. But we have had our share of bad moments in the last couple of seasons, So we know its not a nice feeling to be in. Luke will be alright, Take it on the chin (no pun intended) and get on with his career

Walker came off worse in the initial shoulder impact but the clash of heads did the damage. If it weren't for the head clash Walker would have looked daft.

Surely the players should try and not be reckless whether in the laws of the game or not?

I enjoy a big hit as much as anyone - but never one that looks like it might have caused a serious injury.

I wasn't there so am only commenting on what I have heard reported about the chanting(and what came through the Sky microphones) but as some Cas fans are unhappy with it too, I would suggest you have maybe got this one wrong.

When did you enjoy it?

When it happened? While he was having his treatment, spitting blood and having a neck brace fitted? Or now, in the clear light of day looking back on it?

I'd say within about 10 seconds it was clear it was fairly serious. Any enjoyment of it and future enjoyment should have stopped at that point.

He did look daft, bouncing around like he'd scored the winning try in a Cup Final when a player he'd just tackled lay seriously injured on the floor.

Jaw broke in 2 places. Operation on it today.

Anyone who has played the game knows what was going on in those last 10 minutes

How's Peacock?

Kock to the knee.Scan on Moday.

The player and the club think it will be ok.

I suspect he'll be rested next week and back for Wembley

why was it a reckless tackle? it was an accidental clash of heads.
i'm sure the cas lad didn't know it was bad when he jumped about.
watch leeds and we do the same, people rushing in to congratulate the player on getting a knock on.
nothing nasty in it whatsoever and the cas fans gave him a great round of applause as he went off.

some of you need to get that chip off your shoulder

As I posted on Hulls forum,it shows what players are prepared to go through each week.They deserve fans respect.
Hope he recovers quickly.