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| Quote ="Swarcliffe Rhino"...Weegan have simply upped the ante further by being more clinical with it and marrying ferrocious defence to their usual 5 drives and kick rugby than sHudds could even dream about getting near to.
It isnt pretty, but it is effective and not illegal at all.'"
5 drives and kick? Are you on the same planet?
You're John Kear (of "paint drying" fame) and I claim my £5
Wigan have scored 834 points, the majority from the back three players. How you can say we don't play pretty I've no idea. In fact I'd say we're playing just as pretty as Leeds were playing the season before this one. Had Amos Roberts not got injured in round 10 we'd be even prettier.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"Wigan have won fek all yet. Their fans arrogance beggars belief.'"
I know it's nice to invent facts that agree with your ingrained point of view, but you'll find that most Wigan fans don't think we'll win the Grand Final. Try this thread for some factual evidence of this (you may not like it - it'll refute your opinion) [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=28&t=464669[/url
It can make you look a bit silly throwing allegations around that anyone can find are incorrect with just a few minutes searching & reading.
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| Quote ="ron ryan's jockstrap"leeds may have won back to back grand finals but they will never ever be looked upon as a truly great side like wigan sides of the late 80s and 90s.even the saints sides after that are more thought of than this leeds crop.'"
By you maybe, but I reckon three consecutive league wins is pretty impressive, and I believe that will be remembered for quite some time.
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| I thought Leeds were poor last night. And if hall scores the try(he should have taken it before tomkins got near him) with 6 mins to go we could have still had a sniff at it. I respect and appreciate what Wigan do. but all the top four have the beating of each other. Yesterday made me think we can win it again.
This tread reminds me of those threads where saints fans and other clubs trolls would write us off and poke fun.
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| Leeds have conceded 20 points or over on their last 9 or 10 games.
In their last seven games their points difference is a minus.
That is not the form that's going to win the GF or C Cup.
Next week will be crucial for Leeds, Saints have beaten Warrington tonight and with Hull's win at Quins Leeds are no longer fourth.
Saints will have a massive psychological advantage going into the semi.
Saints are in form, Leeds are out of form!
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Leeds have conceded 20 points or over on their last 9 or 10 games.
In their last seven games their points difference is a minus.
That is not the form that's going to win the GF or C Cup.
Next week will be crucial for Leeds, Saints have beaten Warrington tonight and with Hull's win at Quins Leeds are no longer fourth.
Saints will have a massive psychological advantage going into the semi.
Saints are in form, Leeds are out of form!'"
well we are lucky pre match stats don't decide ties then! And for the record saints defense is hardley water tight of late.
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| Oh well, if you lose to Wigan in the playoffs you can at least brick their supporters coaches again.
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| Been a strange old season with the injuries (what other team hasnt had them tho?)
But a few points from Last night:
*Centres, Senior's passed his sell by date surely? he chase back for the goulding kick was comical. And his turnstyle tackling was reminiscent of Richie Mathers. Delaney is consistanly avarage, is that whats expected for a Champion winning team?
*6/7, for me one of Maguire/Burrows should be sold and replaces with a quality aussie (if there is one available). IMO it would be Maguire, as good as his is for that match winning try from an individual piece of brilliance. HE counter-acts that with consistantly poor tackling (minus the hit on glass jaw), and ill decision making.
*Set Moves, from the games i've seen this year leeds attack hasnt looked this same, possibly with the large player rotation but it seems as if some arent quite so sure what calls being made. Handling skills were put to a test last night but its usually something we excel in.
*Ganson, as mentioned in another thread about his defensive line set up.. its a possiblity. As for some of the other calls it does seem he likes to be contraversial. From the southstand the ablett tackle looked nothing more than a shoulder in the chest rising up. made dramaticlaly worse by J.Tompkins running in for handbags after.
*Wigan tackling, as frustrating as it is to watch, it has potential to win them the Gf at OT. 3/4 man tackles releasing the player at the last possibly moment which allows in turn the defensive line to set. I'd be intrested to see the ablett pentalty again on our own line to see who was holding who down which led to a try.
* Coley/Glass jaw, The probable Hubcap winners have carried these two chumps for the season, neither make big breaks or big tackles and share a minute number of braincells between them.
Next season bodes well for wigan after their recent signings, I was kinda hoping Leeds would be a team to be fearfull of for years to come. As stated above, does loyalty come before sucess?
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| Quote ="gee"I'd be intrested to see the ablett pentalty again on our own line to see who was holding who down which led to a try.
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Ablett's arm was caught between Tomkins legs and expertly held there by young Samuel to win the penalty. Something he's been adept at all season. Another favourite trick of his is rolling over when grounded, trapping a tacklers arm in the process then pretending to struggle to get up to play the ball. Can't knock him for it mind, it seems to fool most of the officials most of the time.
In the end Ganson appeared to suggest that Ablett having ended up with his arm where it was being reason enough for the penalty going against him.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Ablett's arm was caught between Tomkins legs and expertly held there by young Samuel to win the penalty. Something he's been adept at all season. Another favourite trick of his is rolling over when grounded, trapping a tacklers arm in the process then pretending to struggle to get up to play the ball. Can't knock him for it mind, it seems to fool most of the officials most of the time.
In the end Ganson appeared to suggest that Ablett having ended up with his arm where it was being reason enough for the penalty going against him.'"
Ganson had a fair point though. His arm shouldnt really have been there in the 1st place
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| Quote ="Harrigan"=#FF0000Ganson had a fair point though. His arm shouldnt really have been there in the 1st place
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I'm not having that. It just proves how young Samson has all the referees wrapped round his little finger.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'm not having that. It just proves how young Samson has all the referees wrapped round his little finger.'"
Why was Abletts arm there in the 1st place though? He was obviously trying to wrestle him.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Why was Abletts arm there in the 1st place though? He was obviously trying to wrestle him.'"
Maybe he was trying to tickle/fondle his bollox Leon Pryce style?
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| Ablett's arm was naturally enough aimed at the player's neck until young Samara expertly manoevered it in to a delicate position.
Your inability to see what actual goes on is quiet worrying for the future. You should fit right in.
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| Aimed at the neck but ended up in between his legs? WTF?
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| Your just not seeing the subtleties of the professional game yet.
Samia can't wait till you qualify.
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Why was Abletts arm there in the 1st place though? He was obviously trying to wrestle him.'"
hold your arms across your chest and charge, concede a penalty
put your arms around the man with the ball, concede a penalty
any other ideas?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I've yet to see a post that says you were'nt the better the team or deserved the win yesterday so there's yer credit.
What we as Leeds fans have witnessed from this squad consistently thus far this year is not what we know they are capable of.
Now we know you and Wire have improved but we also know that ours and even Saints' decline isn't anywhere near the level that's predicted by the doom-mongers or experts from other teams.
You won and deserved it but like many have said we have every right to be confident in our squad and writing us off and declaring yourselves the new world power is ridiculous.
Enjoy yer win and the Hub-Cap but lets see where we are in October before making such bold statemenst and writing a squad off thats proved itself 3 yrs on the bounce.'"
Read any posts I have put and you will see Ive not declared us new world power or written you off! But the bitterness and arrogance! Ive seen posts that us winning the GF will point towards a poor standard league! Ive seen posts saying that Leeds have nothing to fear from Wigan! When you narrowly beat us in the cup most Leeds fans on here saw that as a statement of intention that we werent good enough!!
We can surely also have confidence in our squad. Winner will come from Wigan, Wire, Stains or Leeds. Out of the 6 league games we have won 4 and lost the other 2 narrowly!
Leeds fans go on about Wiganers living in the past but we are top and challenging now! Leeds fans have an arrogance not seen on any board on these forums by any other supporters! I imagine should we win the GF all we will get is come back when you have won 3 in a row!!
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Oh well, if you lose to Wigan in the playoffs you can at least brick their supporters coaches again.'"
Who is 'you'. Are you implying that it was someone from these boards.
Would you like to back that up?
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Read any posts I have put and you will see Ive not declared us new world power or written you off! But the bitterness and arrogance! Ive seen posts that us winning the GF will point towards a poor standard league! Ive seen posts saying that Leeds have nothing to fear from Wigan! When you narrowly beat us in the cup most Leeds fans on here saw that as a statement of intention that we werent good enough!!
We can surely also have confidence in our squad. Winner will come from Wigan, Wire, Stains or Leeds. Out of the 6 league games we have won 4 and lost the other 2 narrowly!
Leeds fans go on about Wiganers living in the past but we are top and challenging now! Leeds fans have an arrogance not seen on any board on these forums by any other supporters! I imagine should we win the GF all we will get is come back when you have won 3 in a row!!'"
If you win the GF i'm sure you'll get all the plaudits you deserve.
We know you are challenging but don't forget what we've seen from this squad so having confidence in it doesn't add up to arrogance "never seen" on these forums.
Do you think we should be knocking one out over you lot with clowns from sky???
You won and deserved to ,well done now are we allowed to still have faith in our team or will that upset you lot from over the boarder?
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| Quote ="Saint_Marc"Oh well, if you lose to Wigan in the playoffs you can at least brick their supporters coaches again.'"
Wouldn't we be playing Wigan in Wigan?
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Read any posts I have put and you will see Ive not declared us new world power or written you off! But the bitterness and arrogance! Ive seen posts that us winning the GF will point towards a poor standard league! Ive seen posts saying that Leeds have nothing to fear from Wigan! When you narrowly beat us in the cup most Leeds fans on here saw that as a statement of intention that we werent good enough!!
We can surely also have confidence in our squad. Winner will come from Wigan, Wire, Stains or Leeds. Out of the 6 league games we have won 4 and lost the other 2 narrowly!
Leeds fans go on about Wiganers living in the past but we are top and challenging now! Leeds fans have an arrogance not seen on any board on these forums by any other supporters! I imagine should we win the GF all we will get is come back when you have won 3 in a row!!'"
you bet
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"Wigan are a team punching above their weight and have been doing all season. If this Wigan squad goes on to win the grand final then in years gone by we’ll all look at the Wigan team that day in puzzlement and conclude what a poor season 2010 was..'" ?
No, if Wigan win it you'l be looking back on 2010 as the season when the Wigan dynasty started - Wigan will be stronger next year, will you?
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