Wigan have shown over the last few years that inspite of starting poorly (sometimes even worse than our current run) you can still make the top 4 or 5 with a decent run of form. Wigan and Warrington (and maybe Saints) are playing so well I can't see us catching them, but 4th is achievable. If not, we'll have to become the first team to win the GF from 8th!!

That's how I saw it. He was exactly behind him - 6" to his right and he'd have seen him. In many respects the poor play is from team mates not calling.

By the tone of your disappointment i thought you'd completely written us off my mistake if that wasn't the intention.
Still though as TS says writing us off for 4th with so many games still to go and the likes of the teams that have beaten us to come round again i think you are very premature in writing us off on the table also.
Glass is always half full

At this stage last season Catalans and Wigan were 10th & 9th at this stage, and were only 80 mins from Old Trafford.

No reason why we can't start to step up the table in the coming weeks

And where did they both finish in the league? my point exactly.

True, but I think we have more quality in the sqaud than these two did.

Surely there is an onus on Sinfield's teammates however to shout "Man On" or something similar in that situation?

McGuire saw Bentley run straight past him towards Sinfield and didn't move his mouth.

The table is taking shape now with the majority having played 10 games.

At this point the sides Leeds have beaten (Crusaders, Salford, Harlequins and Les Catalans) are all below them on the table.

Leeds have yet to record a win against a side currently ahead of them.

The Hull home game on Sunday is a fair test of the medium term prospects of making some progress.

After not being bothered to read through the last 6 pages (well I read the first one) and I'm sorry if someone has pointed it out, but can I just point out that Kylie wasn't sin-binned for the lateness of the tackle but because it was high!

psssssttttt he didn't referee a game on Thursday!

Gotcha, did you take Mr Soprano's offer to put your money where your mouth is?

I might like a piece of that action as well if you're still confident.

I thought you couldn't be binned for a high tackle? or has that changed?

No he didn't

Where is my mouth?

I am not snake eater you know, so sorry but I do not put money against Leeds, when it is something I would like to be proved wrong on. By the same token I would honestly refuse to take your money if proven right. That would just not be right.

So on this occassion I will look the cowardly one and wave you on by.

Sorry, but that's not how I perceive it (I have watched it back on sky). Sin-binned for taking out a Catalans player 'without the ball', when he was clearly committed. If it was a 'high tackle' this is again wrong, as Kylie went in with his shoulder.

Fair enough.

Are high tackles a sin-binning offence these days?

I note that not one player has been summoned before the disciplinary committee after the 13 fixtures over the Easter period.

Frankly that is unacceptable.

The Hull's hooker groping of the oppositions undercrackers (clearly visable in the 65th minute scrum and he had two bites at the cherry) is an alarming miss by the video review panel. Did they put the wrong tape in the machine?

Leon Pryce must be looking on in envy.



But you are prepared to back against Leeds in the weekly prediction competition.

I'm not ashamed of that. No money changed hands. I love money me, and would never let that out of my hands.

Whether he hit him with his shoulder or not, you can still hit someone high, just ask Maurie Fa'asavalu!

Not even Todd Flanders for nearly knocking the FGB's head off?

I had to chuckle when Eddie and Stevo commented at how unusual that was and not normally a part of Flanders game.

He dishes out more headshots than anyone out there.

Pah he's a poor man's Jason Hooper.

I don't agree with the tackle being high. I tought he made contact with the upper chest, and make contact with the blokes Mellon, and as he was already comitted I feel it was a harsh decision

You can point it out if you wish but it appears to contradict what Thaler said at the time in consultation with his touch judge.

He/The match commissioner clearly changed his mind before writing the referee's report then!