sorry Frosties

I edited it now.. Its for comparison and how I think they compare. IMO.

The ones I have left blank are the ones that I feel compare the same.

I went with how they played against Wigan, according to Skysports.

fancy doing another one now without bias, that shows gidley, puletua and wilkin highlighted?

Poor try of banter there. Try again some other time

Webb Wellens
Donald Gardner
Smith Gidley
Senior Eastmond
Hall Meli
McGuire Pryce
Burrow Long
Leulaui Graham
Diskin Cunningham
Peacock Hargreaves
JJB Flannery
Ablett Gilmour
Sinfield Wilkin

Kirke Roby
Lauitiiti Puletua
Bailey Fa'asavalu
Burgess Clough

But comparing players one for one is meaningless really, I just wanted to see who would actually come up on top IMO.

Can you do it again in the positions they are likely to play, i think you had Pryce against Hall and Long up against Danny, in fact i think you missed gilmour out at centre

It has been done again on positions.

1 Brent Webb - - - 1. Paul Wellens
2 Scott Donald - - - 2. Ade Gardner
3 Lee Smith - - - 3. Matt Gidley
4 Keith Senior - - - 18. Kyle Eastmond
5 Ryan Hall - - - 5. Francis Meli
6 Danny McGuire - - - 6. Leon Pryce
7 Rob Burrow - - - 7. Sean Long
8 Kylie Leuluai - - - 16. Tony Puletua
14 Matt Diskin - - - 9. Kieron Cunningham
10 Jamie Peacock - - - 10. James Graham
18 Carl Ablett - - - 11. Lee Gilmour
11 Jamie Jones-Buchanan - - - 12. Jon Wilkin
13 Kevin Sinfield (C) - - - 13. Chris Flannery

12 Ali Lauitiiti - - - 17. Paul Clough
16 Ryan Bailey - - - 14. James Roby
17 Ian Kirke - - - 15. Bryn Hargreaves
19 Luke Burgess - - - 23. Maurie Fa’asavalu

Drop out:

21 Simon Worrall - - - 28. Matty Ashurst
23 Kallum Watkins - - - 24. Andrew Dixon

Your positions are wrong

I don't think any stats from the season matter, with the possible exception of the goalkicker. Having said that if Saints put the ball down under the sticks every time it won't matter.

I'm more nervous than I was in 2004 (which is saying something). I'll admit now that I haven't been able to watch a Leeds GF live since 1998, when I was there. I have real trouble watching even league games live on TV, I can't release the tension like I could when I used to live in Leeds and go to all games. I'll do what I usually do, Sky+ it and check the result at 8pm. Last year I had no choice as I was flying to Japan, I just got mullered on the plane and then made everyone jump in the queue at immigration in Tokyo when I finally got my phone to connect.

It's great to be talking about the game, over the last 3 years there has been nothing between Leeds and Saints, it's a shame we have degenerated too often into slagging matches (I know- I'm being very hypocritical as I've done as much as anyone). Having said that, I don't believe Leeds have been given the credit they deserve since the 2004 season. I think it's been unfair to judge the league positions at the end of the regular season as a measure of the best team (sorry Mr Wilkin, you are just plain wrong), the unequal fixtures have not made for a level playing field, but you also have to accept that the GF is the way we decide who are the Champions, and the fact that ever team and coach knows this at the start of the season means that until this year a top two place was every coaches target to increase your chance of getting to Old Trafford.
The stats show us that only one team has won it from outside the top 2 and that teams finishing 1 and 2 are about equal for victories. If we decided who were Champions by finishing top after the regular rounds then coaches would demand an even fixture list (more like we have now) and would have their teams peaking at different parts of the season.

It's clear that many in the game are reluctant to give Leeds anything other than grudgeing respect, while heaping accolades on our nearest rivel. Our miserable performance at the MOS awards, etc. are an obvious indicator that Leeds are seen as an organised team lacking truly brilliant individuals, performing above their capability in the playoffs against a superior Saints side.
Time and again we are given the example of the Challenge Cup failures, without taking into account the difficulty of peaking at the beginning of the season for a WCC, for an ealry cup game against Saints (time and again), and for the playoffs. I believe we are the only club to win a WCC and a GF in the same season.

Having spent 20 years watching a team that had no say in pretty much anything in the RL world, I find myself nervous because Leeds can make another piece of history and record a third successive GF win.

There I've got that out of the system, now I can try and chill out for a couple of days. My lad has a match on Saturday, I'll probably be just as nervous about that.

I'm not sure that's the case but my memory is naff so I'd have to look up who won what so far as us and Bradford are concerned, but it's too late at night for me to be bothered!

Superb Mr Moustache. You've summed up my thoughts perfectly well and much more eloquently than I could've.

Couldn't you equally say "time and again Leeds have been given credit for winning one game without taking into account the difficulty of playing additional rugby to win the Chalenge Cup and finishing top of the league."?

FWIW Leeds are the best side in the league by a mile this season, something that hasn't been true of Saints or Leeds over the past few years, so credit where it is due - terrific team you have at the moment, frightening to think of Buderus and Eastwood in it next year

No.

www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 55,00.html Pundits say: McRae: Saints O'Connor: Saints Carney: Leeds Stevo: No Call Clarke: Saints

www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 55,00.html Pundits say: McRae: Saints O'Connor: Saints Carney: Leeds Stevo: No Call Clarke: Saints

Prove it isn't the case then.


Good luck.

Suits me them writing Leeds off again.

Suprised Clarke not backing Leeds............no really

Didn't back us? He didn't even mention us.

I'm with Stevo on this one.

Yep, at least McRae & O'Connor gave valid reasons for picking Saints whilst stressing how close and difficult it is to pick.

Clarke's apparent reasoning is that Saints will win because Leeds beat them 5 weeks ago

If Leeds don't have Peacock, Senior and Lauititi in the side then I think I'll back Saints as well.

I used to enjoy Clarke when he first started with the Sky team as he used to give balanced views but now he is just a lemon sucking bitter piesaintonian.

I wonder why they didn't ask Barrie? I guess they didn't want to print an obviously biased opinion..