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| Quote ="tvoc"I thought it was a good finish.'"
Agreed, I thought he took the try well and looked hungrier for work than he has for a while.
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Look at Hall's technique at catching the ball over his head at least he looks like he might actually compete - Donald for me doesn't look like he actually competes for the high ball - high kicks in his direction are now leading to tries at an alarming rate.
Having said that he was a lot better on Saturday than he has been hopefully it will give his confidence a boost'"
Hall's technique is very unorthodox, and I doubt you would find it in any coaching manual, but it works for him, and when added to his height means that 9/10 he can take the high bomb befroe anyone else can get a hand to it.
It is more customary to catch the ball with a cradle around face height. Donald is not the tallest winger, so will get beaten by someone with a decent jump, who is just there to get something on the ball.
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| Quote ="SouthStanderDave".. Seriously?!
The guy scores a try, despite looking like he would have been taken into touch, and you're criticizing him because he should have scored it 'more comfortably'.
He's having a stinker of a season so far, can't argue with that, but give the guy a break. We know what he's capable of and hopefully we'll start to see it again.'"
I don't really think Matt was critisizing the player, more that he was commenting that he isn't as comfortable trying to go in at the right corner as he is with the left.
That's not unreasonable comment. On the left he'd have done it all instinctively, on Saturday he had to think more and work more to score, he probably took a fraction of a second longer and that fraction of a second gave the opposition a sniff of a chance to stop him but he still made it.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Hall's technique is very unorthodox, and I doubt you would find it in any coaching manual, but it works for him, and when added to his height means that 9/10 he can take the high bomb befroe anyone else can get a hand to it.
It is more customary to catch the ball with a cradle around face height. Donald is not the tallest winger, so will get beaten by someone with a decent jump, who is just there to get something on the ball.'"
But Donald would do a lot better if he actually made an effort to jump himself. And actually judge the ball a lot better.
His actual technique is not that bad. When nobody challenges him, he takes cleanly. He wimps out though when challenged by others.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But Donald would do a lot better if he actually made an effort to jump himself. And actually judge the ball a lot better.
His actual technique is not that bad. When nobody challenges him, he takes cleanly. He wimps out though when challenged by others.'"
Got those details of what qualifies you to advise Scott donald on how to play?
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| Quote ="Ouzo"Got those details of what qualifies you to advise Scott donald on how to play?'"
Sure. I just dont need to display it to pish poor trolls.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sure. I just dont need to display it to pish poor trolls.
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I must have missed all those games you played or coached at the top level.
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| Quote ="Ouzo"I must have missed all those games you played or coached at the top level.'"
Wouldn't be suprising. Considering how many games you dont actually see.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But Donald would do a lot better if he actually made an effort to jump himself. And actually judge the ball a lot better.
His actual technique is not that bad. When nobody challenges him, he takes cleanly. He wimps out though when challenged by others.'"
I didn't think he wimped out when he was taken out in the air towards the end of the first half
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I didn't think he wimped out when he was taken out in the air towards the end of the first half'"
Difference though. He had no challenge until he was coming down. His problem is when he has to challenge with someobody else. Like I said, without a challenge he actually takes a ball cleanly.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Wouldn't be suprising. Considering how many games you dont actually see.
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Don't skirt around the issue. The interest here is your qualifications in how to advise Scott Donald.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"This is a RL discussion board DISA, I’m giving my opinion and you are giving yours, If you think I’m being pratty then I apologize.
I’m just asking why you think he made a meal of it? Did he take the wrong path? Did he hesitate? Did he dive too late?
Scott Donald Has been in the SL dream team for the past 2 years, yes I do think he is having a poor season compared to his usual standards, but to suggest we should let him go if he hadn’t of scored that try on Saturday is a massive over reaction, IMO obviously.'" That was abit of an overreaction Gotcha, because Donald is one of the best left wingers in this league.
I don't know what Donald specifically did wrong, nothing as far as I could tell, but had he been given the ball in the same situation on the other side I don't think the defender would have got a hand on him. Well done to him for getting the ball down (he did very well in the end to keep his right foot in the air above the touchline, but I still maintain he looks far from comfortable squeezing in at the right hand corner, and saturday is far from the first time I've been given this impression.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"He should have scored it far more easily. I would have backed myself to finish that one.
Had he not scored it, it was certainly time to cut the losses and kick him out.'"
I would have "backed" you to have never played the game matey. I expect that your username is a clue to what you are about - limited (none) knowledge of the game & just a little mixer
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| Quote ="Gotcha" He wimps out though when challenged by others.'" What a ridiculous expression. Fool.
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| Quote ="G1"What a ridiculous expression. Fool.'"
But nowhere near as ridiculous as calling Lee Smith our 3rd best winger.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"This is a RL discussion board DISA, I’m giving my opinion and you are giving yours, If you think I’m being pratty then I apologize.
I’m just asking why you think he made a meal of it? Did he take the wrong path? Did he hesitate? Did he dive too late?
Scott Donald Has been in the SL dream team for the past 2 years, yes I do think he is having a poor season compared to his usual standards, but to suggest we should let him go if he hadn’t of scored that try on Saturday is a massive over reaction, IMO obviously.'"
Oh - so Gotcha is DISA !! That says it all cos DISA does not know sweet FA about anything
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| Quote ="Gotcha"But nowhere near as ridiculous as calling Lee Smith our 3rd best winger.
'" You're right. They way broughton is coming on he's probably 4th?
Donald has reached heights as a winger that Smith hasn't gotten remotely near. Hall and Smith were in a battle for a wing spot last year and this year Hall is probably the best winger in the competition.
Smith is a quality utility back. There are better out and out wingers on our books.
Did Mclennan consider Smith our best winger last year? No, he took a long time to decide between him and Hall.
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| Quote ="G1"Did Mclennan consider Smith our best winger last year? No, he took a long time to decide between him and Hall.'"
Is this the same McClennan that you continually critisize for taking players backwards and making mistakes?
Gareth your as clueless as anybody else and make mistakes, face up to it. You know fook all more about players capabilities than others.
I notice you now raving about Richard Owen. Good spot by the way. He is the nearest back in the competition to Smith, but only half as good at this stage.
By the way. Why is it that whenever your in dissagreement with somobody that buttplug turns up with another alias?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Gareth your as clueless as anybody else, face up to it. You know fook all about players capabilities.'"
Good of you to include yourself in "anybody else" - unless of course you're intimating that you know more about what it takes to play top level RL than anyone else on here?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Good of you to include yourself in "anybody else" - unless of course you're intimating that you know more about what it takes to play top level RL than anyone else on here?'"
I was including myself. Everyone makes mistakes. We dont all act the arrogant [iD1ck[/i though and make out we dont.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Is this the same McClennan that you continually critisize for taking players backwards and making mistakes?
Gareth your as clueless as anybody else and make mistakes, face up to it. You know fook all more about players capabilities than others.
I notice you now raving about Richard Owen. Good spot by the way. He is the nearest back in the competition to Smith, but only half as good at this stage.
By the way. Why is it that whenever your in dissagreement with somobody that buttplug turns up with another alias?'" So, you deride my view that Smith is our 2rd best winger.
I substantiate my opinion.
You respond with that.
Then you wonder why nobody whatsoever on this forum takes you seriously.
BTW, I've no idea who or what you're on about WRT an alias.
For future reference, in order to save me the time and energy of typing a response, consider my response to each and every one of your posts to be "Phil Daly" then imagine me laughing heartily at the clown you repeatedly make of yourself.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"By the way. Why is it that whenever your in dissagreement with somobody that buttplug turns up with another alias?'"
You're obsessed with aliases.
Get Mclaren Field to run an IP check and confirm it or STFU.
TIA
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Come on Tad, that is just ridiculous.
Donald was as bad as he has been all season. Did you have your eyes shut when he flapped at two high balls? one resulting in a try for Quins, and the other giving us a lucky bounce to avoid conceeding.
The try he scored was handed on a plate, and he nearly made a meal of that by going into touch, when he should have scored with ease.
Sure Hall made a poor mistake, but he made up for it the rest of the game.
What did I miss from Donald that made up for his pathetic mistakes?
On the game, I thought Webb and Buderus were simply superb. We need to get away from this two hooker thing (especially the way we do it). Diskin effects our attacking options massively when he is on the field, leave him off it.'"
pathetic disa,your agenda is noted. donald could have scored a hat trick and not missed a thing and you would still have found something to whinge about
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Hall's technique is very unorthodox, and I doubt you would find it in any coaching manual, but it works for him, and when added to his height means that 9/10 he can take the high bomb befroe anyone else can get a hand to it.
It is more customary to catch the ball with a cradle around face height. Donald is not the tallest winger, so will get beaten by someone with a decent jump, who is just there to get something on the ball.'"
Watch the NRL this type of take is becoming more common - watch Folau or Inglis during Wednesday's SOO
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