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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"What do people want of a prop? Genuine question.
Statistically speaking Bailey compares reasonably favourably with Luke Burgess. Slightly less on the yardage and fewer offloads but more tackles and far fewer misses and a lower error count.
What the stats don't show is the aggression, the niggle, the talking. They don't show the speed of PTBs either. There does seem to be an obsession with yardage and not a whole lot more.
As Gareth alludes - he's won 3 Grand Finals, played in 4, played for GB and been a regular under 3 different coaches in the last 6 years. I'm surprised they haven't found out this lazy player who doesn't look interested. Dean Lance would have sorted him out.'"
I'm with you on this one. Each player has a different worth to the game. These values are not necessarily shown in stats or visible to supporters whose knowledge of the game is not that deep. Depending on the game plan, a prop who makes contact, then trudges 3 or 4 mopre yards slowly with men on him, isn't necessrily as useful to a team, as someone who hits the line, takes contact, and gets the ball played quickly. Especially where you rely on a quick PTB to get a roll on.
Basically, Peacock is rubbish. Bailey = god
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| I liked him yesterday, just to spite the fat idiot stood next to me. Calling him a p*ssy, and a big black pudding.
I'm sorry, but no RL player is a p*ssy in my eyes
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| Good to see the usual culprits defending the indefensible - good old Ryan plays the ball quickly? Its a good fooking job, he's on the deck before he even hits the defensive line.
Paul Sculthorpe summed him up perfectly before putting big bad Ryan on his backside.
And who can forget his run round the back of Leeds players cowardfest at Knowsley Road, pure carry on film that one!!
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| Quote ="Steve-O"I liked him yesterday, just to spite the fat idiot stood next to me. Calling him a p*ssy, and a big black pudding.
I'm sorry, but no RL player is a p*ssy in my eyes'"
I never shut my eyes and get out of the way when placing body on line.
Regards,
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| Thought Bailey was dire until he re appeared after getting a bang on the head.
Maybe that helped
Tried to gee the team up a bit and put in one or two decent hits.
Was far too predictable in his first stint and fell off tackles except when he was third man in!
Diskin looked dis interested for large parts of the game and Donald was woeful IMO.
Burgess`s defence was good not sure I would say he took over Peacocks role though.
Ball retention is similar to Thackrays unfortunately.
Thought Ali, JJB and Kylie did well.
Any news on Abletts injury?
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"I never shut my eyes and get out of the way when placing body on line.
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You're tough! I'm sure you'd do a great job.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Good to see the usual culprits defending the indefensible - good old Ryan plays the ball quickly? Its a good fooking job, he's on the deck before he even hits the defensive line.
Paul Sculthorpe summed him up perfectly before putting big bad Ryan on his backside.
And who can forget his run round the back of Leeds players cowardfest at Knowsley Road, pure carry on film that one!!
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Poor titch.
I think its time you put this persona to bed and thought of a new one. Good while it lasted but everything has its day.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Good to see the usual culprits defending the indefensible - good old Ryan plays the ball quickly? Its a good fooking job, he's on the deck before he even hits the defensive line.
Paul Sculthorpe summed him up perfectly before putting big bad Ryan on his backside.
And who can forget his run round the back of Leeds players cowardfest at Knowsley Road, pure carry on film that one!!
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So as a player at dummy half, would you rather be picking the ball up with markers not square, and a retreating defensive line, or be 3 yards forward against a flat set defense?
You are so lame its untrue Richie. I accept that Bailey is not a great player, but he is effective and good value for money.
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| For me Bailley is a bit of an enigma. His size and aggresive reputation are not backed up by the yards he makes forward, and yet he still gets in the faces of the opposing players.
Defensively, I'm not too bothered whether he's 1st, 2nd or 3rd into the tackle, as long as he does get in. And he's proved more than capable of putting in big hits that raise the whole team.
On balance, I'd rather see him in the squad, than playing elsewhere.
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| Titchy Tinyrod reckons he's macho because he once did some foxy boking in his Halfix gym.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"So as a player at dummy half, would you rather be picking the ball up with markers not square, and a retreating defensive line, or be 3 yards forward against a flat set defense?
You are so lame its untrue Richie. I accept that Bailey is not a great player, but he is effective and good value for money.'"
You aren't very good are you at this are you, clearly a jump on the bandwagon merchant when SL started.
I tell you what I want, I want a player who breaks or pushes the defensive line backwards to gain momentum and disorganise the opponents defensive line, I don't want a player who fails to do anything other than fall over of be driven backwards.
Sculthorpe's view remains far more creditable than anyone else on this board.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"
Sculthorpe's view remains far more creditable than anyone else on this board.'" Credible.
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| Quote ="G1"Credible.'"
Yes Indeedy, I would rather take the view of world class ex SL player who has played at the very top level and performed at International level v the Leeds believests on Southstander which include you my little plum.
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Yes Indeedy, I would rather take the view of world class ex SL player who has played at the very top level and performed at International level v the Leeds believests on Southstander which include you my little plum.'"
Titch, I think he was correcting your grammar rather than backing you up
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Titch, I think he was correcting your grammar rather than backing you up
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Its a handsome sports jacket he has - clearly tailor made for a successful businessman who can afford and deserves the very best.
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| Can I just say how pleased I am that we got a win yesterday with our best players missing against a good side, lots of us predicted a loss yesterday but it seems nothing can keep the s happy
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"You aren't very good are you at this are you, clearly a jump on the bandwagon merchant when SL started.
I tell you what I want, I want a player who breaks or pushes the defensive line backwards to gain momentum and disorganise the opponents defensive line, I don't want a player who fails to do anything other than fall over of be driven backwards.
Sculthorpe's view remains far more creditable than anyone else on this board.'"
Your comprehension skills are that of a 7 year old with learning difficulties. I would love a player who breaks the line, and pushes them back. Luckily we have plenty of players who do that. There is more to the game than just busting tackles, and there are plenty of people knocking round in SL who can bust a tackle, but have little else to their game.
I wouldn't expect you with your little knowledge of Rl to understand some of the finer points of the game, but you can't just look at one play in isolation. Player A makes a bust on tackle 3 because player B has got a quick PTB and the line is not organised.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the Ryan Bailey most people know he can be, but to suggest he is not worth a place in the team is ludicrous. He has barely missed a game for 7 years when available.
I see your Sculthorpe and raise you a Smith, Noble & McClennan
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Its a handsome sports jacket he has - clearly tailor made for a successful businessman who can afford and deserves the very best.
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It's all the rage in upper Bradford
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"I had a choice yesterday, Halifax or Leeds, I chose Leeds as I always do and always will and come to that always have, despite the fact that the game at the Shay by all accounts was outstanding with attacking play aplenty.
:yfa6510lI find watching Leeds under this current coach a pretty tedious affair.[
did you say that last year too?
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Your comprehension skills are that of a 7 year old with learning difficulties. I would love a player who breaks the line, and pushes them back. Luckily we have plenty of players who do that. There is more to the game than just busting tackles, and there are plenty of people knocking round in SL who can bust a tackle, but have little else to their game.
I wouldn't expect you with your little knowledge of Rl to understand some of the finer points of the game, but you can't just look at one play in isolation. Player A makes a bust on tackle 3 because player B has got a quick PTB and the line is not organised.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see the Ryan Bailey most people know he can be, but to suggest he is not worth a place in the team is ludicrous. He has barely missed a game for 7 years when available.
I see your Sculthorpe and raise you a Smith, Noble & McClennan'"
You've alreayd been owned, stop now, its ruining whats left of your limited reputation.
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"Can I just say how pleased I am that we got a win yesterday with our best players missing against a good side, lots of us predicted a loss yesterday but it seems nothing can keep the s happy
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........ "Lots of us"
Would the s who predicted a loss, been any happier today if we had been beaten?
A is for life..... not just for matchdays!
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