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| I believe this years Northern game and he gave some very odd decision, I may be wrong that it was not are French friend,
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I believe this years Northern game and he gave some very odd decision, I may be wrong that it was not are French friend,'"
It was ian smith,uncle alibert was the VR who got told what decisions to make by smith!!
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"I believe this years Northern game and he gave some very odd decision, I may be wrong that it was not are French friend,'"
With you now. The only questionable decision by the video referee at Odsal was the no obstruction by Terry Newton on Jamie Jones-Buchanan for Sheriffe's winning score. Everything else were correct calls IMO.
Re the obstruction, as Alibert saw nothing wrong with Senior on Calderwood for the Hall try I guess that will have to count as our even up decision from him. Would have preferred both tries were chalked off mind.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"I've been to Hull and back!!!'" So as Del Boy.
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| Quote ="BEN_THE_BLACK&WHITE"Its not something i want to see in the game but if refs are going to keep making monumental feck ups then players need to let them know they are doing so, because the inconsistant reffing is making our game become more of a circus.
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Except it wasnt a monumental feck up. The ref was correct according to the rules. It refers to a diagram but you can get the idea anyway.
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[iIt is permissible for player 4, after passing the ball, to slow down in order to position himself for a return pass from player 5. He must give ‘right of way’ to opponents who are running across in front of him to tackle player 5 but is not guilty of obstructing opponents who are coming from behind him.[/i
Calders should have controlled himself and carried on running instead moaning like a b1tch. As TVOC said he did the same in the playoff game last year against Wigan with another perfectly legitimate try.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"So, just to be clear, you think if refs make wrong decisions, players should be allowed to abuse them?
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YEP.....if theyre in the wrong....which terry halibut and his sidekick clearly were
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| Quote ="BigRob"Except it wasnt a monumental feck up. The ref was correct according to the rules. It refers to a diagram but you can get the idea anyway.
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[iIt is permissible for player 4, after passing the ball, to slow down in order to position himself for a return pass from player 5. He must give ‘right of way’ to opponents who are running across in front of him to tackle player 5 but is not guilty of obstructing opponents who are coming from behind him.[/i
Calders should have controlled himself and carried on running instead moaning like a b1tch. As TVOC said he did the same in the playoff game last year against Wigan with another perfectly legitimate try.'"
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"icon_lol.gif
At a Leeds fan moaning about the opposition players shouting at the referee.
Sinfield, Mcguire, Diskin, Webb and Jamie Jones will all be well and truely pi*sed off with you.'"
I like to think that the majority of Leeds fans actually find the way some players are acting this year a tad embarrassing. I know I do.
Sinfield was always very respectful to the ref, and I suppose he still is, but you do get a sense that they are pushing it a bit. I'd like it stamped out.
We laugh at Calderwood but Ablett was just as bad when he decided not to tackle Worrincy at Odsal.
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"YEP.....if theyre in the wrong....which terry halibut and his sidekick clearly were'"
See above. No they weren't.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"If they chase the ref half the length of the field and shout in his face like Calderwood did, they're out of order exactly the same as he was. I don't care who the guilty party plays for, it shouldn't happen. There's an element of it in all clubs (even Saints, shock horror). There shouldn't be. That includes Leeds.
You may go back under your bridge now.'"
Exactly. Plus as tvoc mentioned this isnt Calderwoods first time with this kind of thing either. Should have been sinbinned imo as should Fielden against Wire. The only person who should be talking to the ref is the captain and he should be respectful. If a player or coach has a problem with a ref or a decision they can bring it up in private after the game.
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| My problem with the newton tackle ay Odslum is that although it did not interfer with the try I always thought tackling a player who one does not havee the ball (infact you are in possion yourself) is a penalty? and has it happened before the try was scored ?
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| Except it did interfere with the try, as JJB was the charger looking to put pressure on the kicker (Jeffries?) and was denied the chance to do so by Newton flying out of the attacking line and blatantly obstructing him.
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| Quote ="BigRob"As TVOC said he did the same in the playoff game last year against Wigan with another perfectly legitimate try.'"
Thanks for that. I was beginning to think I'd imagined it.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Except it did interfere with the try, as JJB was the charger looking to put pressure on the kicker (Jeffries?) and was denied the chance to do so by Newton flying out of the attacking line and blatantly obstructing him.
IMO, of course.'"
What made it worse for me was the angle of Newton's run. He targetted Jones-Buchanan as the player to put pressure on the kicker and made a bee line to obstruct him ahead of the ball carrier.
That apart I still had no other issues with Mr Alibert's video rulings.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"oh dear Calders
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your obsession with former players who moved on to lesser things has been noted, just one question that you haven't answered from my previous post, what is with the obsession? he played for leeds, did well for us, and left! so what?
you loved him when he did his "grenade" celebration at wigan!
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| I find it strange that Saints supporters call, Leeds players over talking to refs, when last year they could basically chose who refed them. Eg No Mr Smith and they allowed that well known Saints supporter Ganson ref key games for them.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"your obsession with former players who moved on to lesser things has been noted, just one question that you haven't answered from my previous post, what is with the obsession? he played for leeds, did well for us, and left! so what?
you loved him when he did his "grenade" celebration at wigan!
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Its just Loz. It may seem a bit childish, sad and cringeworthy but its just his way.
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| Quote ="Puig-Aubert"Its just Loz. It may seem a bit childish, sad and cringeworthy but its just his way.'"
Ahhhh, thanks for clearing that up!
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| Quote ="tvoc"With you now. The only questionable decision by the video referee at Odsal was the no obstruction by Terry Newton on Jamie Jones-Buchanan for Sheriffe's winning score. Everything else were correct calls IMO.
Re the obstruction, as Alibert saw nothing wrong with Senior on Calderwood for the Hall try I guess that will have to count as our even up decision from him. Would have preferred both tries were chalked off mind.'" You would prefer a legitimate and legal Leeds try chalked off?
Do you really want to see us lose so you can proclaim you were right about recruitment?
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| Quote ="G1"You would prefer a legitimate and legal Leeds try chalked off? '"
Which legitimate Leeds try was ruled out?
Quote ="G1"Do you really want to see us lose so you can proclaim you were right about recruitment?'"
I never want to see Leeds lose, ever.
The performance of the chairman, CEO, coaching staff, as well as the players are all valid points of discussion when the club falls short of achieving the results they should be capable of.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Which legitimate Leeds try was ruled out?
'" Were you not referring to the Senior/Calderwood incident's for Hall's try Tuesday when you said
Quote Re the obstruction, as Alibert saw nothing wrong with Senior on Calderwood for the Hall try I guess that will have to count as our even up decision from him. Would have preferred both tries were chalked off mind.'"
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