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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Ultimately those businesses that communicate with their customers (actual and potential) with the most honesty and clarity, are the ones that have the most stable relationship with them.'"
As our old sales Director used to say, "Honesty is never the best policy".
Admitedly he lied about who was sharing his company paid for condo and simply disappeared one day after being fired and threatened with jail if he opened his mouth, but as a general principle it still holds up IMO.
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| Quote ="G1"Those of you craving more signings need a reality check.
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Technically that would also include our coach and GH, as we actually did sign Eastwood.
I don't know how much cash it costs to build a stand the size of the South Stand, but it has to make a players contract look like something you might find down the back of a sofa.
I have to agree with our human computer here.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"As our old sales Director used to say, "Honesty is never the best policy".
Admitedly he lied about who was sharing his company paid for condo and simply disappeared one day after being fired and threatened with jail if he opened his mouth, but as a general principle it still holds up IMO.'"
I guess that working for a company that is listed on Wall Street and therefore bound by Sarbanes Oxley regulations, I'm just too honest.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I guess that working for a company that is listed on Wall Street and therefore bound by Sarbanes Oxley regulations, I'm just too honest.
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We were being audited for Sarbanes Oxley at the time or nothing would have been done, thankfully the company I work for now is privately owned.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
London born players should not be coveted by north of England teams, IMO and any that sign them do the sport a dis-service.
Clubb would make an excellent acquisition but one that I'd hate Leeds to make.'"
I'm with tvoc on that, and I think you could add McCarthy-Scarsbrook to that list too.
As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.
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| Quote ="Essex Rhino"As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.'"
I must admit I was shocked. I think he's ate Greg Eastwood.... trying to get him in through the back door.
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| Quote ="Essex Rhino"
As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.'"
We should be looking more for a Fi Ji, a Ton Ga, or even better an Oz Tralia.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"unless we're paying a fee I feel we've missed the boat in bringing in any SL players.
The rookie NRL youngsters usually establish themselves by mid season in which case may allow for early releases of some players.'"
I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
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- Dying to end his kick & clap hell at Toulon
Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"We should be looking more for a Fi Ji, a Ton Ga, or even better an Oz Tralia.'"
That was pretty awful!! It's Sunday though so I'll let it slide.
And about Sonny Bill. How much would he be after? A very lot is probably the answer!
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Ultimately those businesses that communicate with their customers (actual and potential) with the most honesty and clarity, are the ones that have the most stable relationship with them.'" Letting your customers know you're hitting a rough patch is a great idea.
No, really.
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| Quote ="Steve-O"That was pretty awful!! It's Sunday though so I'll let it slide.
And about Sonny Bill. How much would he be after? A very lot is probably the answer!'"
Depends what it is worth to get away from Toulon ...
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Depends what it is worth to get away from Toulon ...'"
I have a feeling he wouldn't fit in anyway. Good player but I seem to remember him missing a lot of rugby when he was in Aus. But I suppose he would go OK in a lesser comp like SL.
No thanks for me
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| Quote ="tvoc"
I tend to measure Leeds against the best they can be. I'd like to see Leeds use whatever they have at their disposal to defend their titles this season. I don't even mind seeing them fail if I think they are giving us 100% of what they've got.
If they thought they needed to sign Greg Eastwood (and they appeared to think so when they signed him) what has changed since then to make a replacement not as necessary?
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Pretty bang on. With an eye in the future you can see all empires fall and I would rather we be over taken by better teams than give it away by handicapping ourselves by not using what we have. Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
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- Dying to end his kick & clap hell at Toulon
Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....'" I could be wrong but hasn't he got a criminal conviction?
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"Pretty bang on. With an eye in the future you can see all empires fall and I would rather we be over taken by better teams than give it away by handicapping ourselves by not using what we have. Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead.'"
GH never actually said that did he??
He has clearly stated IF the RIGHT player became available and on the best deal for the club we would add to the squad.
All he's said is that he and the coaches are happy with what we have got and that we won't make a signing for the sake of it.
After the key role GH has played in re-building our club from the brink of oblivion and the policy's in terms of squad building and recruitment why question his methods???
Should we really be offering big money for player's at this moment in time if the coach is happy to bide his time and wait for the right player??
Are we that desperate to sign more player's when we are top of the league without hitting top gear yet??
Also we don't know what's happening behind the scene's re-contract extstentions and posiible future recruitment so let's trust someone who has played a key role in putting us where we are and know's what it take's to keep us there.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
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Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....'"
As I posted elsewhere on here last week, SBW has signed a 12 month extension to his Toulon contract so he's no longer available - if he ever was at a price GH would be prepared to pay.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"
All he's said is that he and the coaches are happy with what we have got and that we won't make a signing for the sake of it.
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Because Gary hasn't said we're short... we're not??
We're only short if he says so? Until then we're not?
Because he said he and the coaches are happy (after failing to bring in reinforcements) you believe him. Case and point. You believe whatever the club say while ignoring what they do.
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| No matter what the club say now IF a target comes along they will discuss the merit of any such signing at the time, As has been stated before we dont need to sign just anyone
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| I think there is little doubt that a signing would improve our squad strength and depth. However, this has to be balanced against the long term balance of the squad, as well as the cost of aquiring the person. Paying the bulls 400k for BUrgess would be a big layout for a player, but would be the sort of calibre of player we should be going after, rather than the Sam Moas of this world. If the club can't afford a fee, then it will probably not happen this season.
Over the course of the season we have enough to match Saints, anyone else is not an issue to me really.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru" Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
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You seem to have missed the point. The Southstand has to be dealt with. That will cost significant money.
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Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. .'" How does that work then? You get a player to remain in limbo on a provisional contract that we will take up at our discretion if our 1st choice player becomes unavailable for some unforeseen reason?
If you get stuck in our position (and Hulls) with signings you have two options. Do what Hull did and compromise on a lesser quality player than happens to be available or rely on the youth set up you have invested significant resources into already.
Quote For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead'" The coach would want a hundred 1st team players. The Directors have to try and balance giving the coach what he wants, what he needs, compliance with the league rules and looking after the other interests of the club.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"Because Gary hasn't said we're short... we're not??
We're only short if he says so? Until then we're not?
Because he said he and the coaches are happy (after failing to bring in reinforcements) you believe him. Case and point. You believe whatever the club say while ignoring what they do.'"
I believe if a quality player become's available at the right price for the club we'll sign him!!
I also believe that up until now GH has more than proved himself as our chief exec.
Whilst you chelp about signing's and squad depth or lack of it check the league table and check GH's squad building/retention record!!
If they say they are happy with the squad depth plus there's money available to make a signing(if it's right all round) why not trust them to get it right???
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Over the course of the season we have enough to match Saints, anyone else is not an issue to me really.'"
Except perhaps when it comes to head to head meetings with them under McClennan. Two wins from six could be interpreted as a worrying statistic?
Next Sunday is a big game. Going two from seven would not instil me going forward with confidence that Leeds have the measure of St Helens with the present underfunded, understrength squad.
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| Quote ="G1"Letting your customers know you're hitting a rough patch is a great idea.
No, really.
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| i feel we need another prop. at this time i would be happy with someone who did the basics right, was competant, and was able to play in order to rest others. i would be happy with a richard moore(if fit) or paul wood. nothing special but able to do a job
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| Don't know if this has been said, but who's been filling in Scruton's space? He seemed to play quite a bit last season so I would have thought you would have bought another decent prop.
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