Something we can finally agree on. Rugby League is a team game and not a team of individuals game. I’m proud of every single player who played on that pitch tonight respective of wherever they were conceived by their mother at birth.

No he doesnt. Nothing at all.

Yes they do. Mark (RIP) and Julie can be very proud of all 4 of their lads, including Luke.

However, what this statement has to do with the embarrassingly ill informed posts you've made earlier is beyond me.

He was a joke for you tonight. He just seems to think that he is a hardman but when someone went for him in the ingoal area he shat his self. Also at the half time whistle why did he feel the need to rag the player to the floor when the hooter had gone, when he could of just held onto him.

Jumping about like he's going to tw[ia[/it someone when he wouldn't dare!
He isn't good enough for a team as good as yours he is a first class thug. You need to get rid!

He makes no yards at all! Did you see the game today ? I'd love to see his stats!

Bailey is crap. You play him because you have nobody else. Yes he was part of back to back super league titles but i'd love to actually see his stats in them grand finals. Jesus Ricky Bibey won 2 challenge cup finals.

As G1 has said. I think I'll take the judgement on both past and present Leeds coaching staff over opposition fans.

Coaches go with experiance.

Baileys got the experiance he just hasent got the talent! Bluey picks him because you aint got anyone else.

We all have nights when we are jokes. Its just that Bailey has a bit of spotlight on him that all. This is unless you have the last of the summer wine on repeat on your TV all day that is.



So you can read his mind can you? He is a hard man because he needs to be thanks to the sport he plays. We all get scared in our lives and Bailey is no different.



Because he felt like it and though it would make impact or he got frustrated. Either way Muslim terrist have felt to done worse - I would rather question that than a bit of biff on the rugby field.



He’s good enough. He gets a bit of a temper at times like we all do but we cut him a bit of slack because he’s helped this Leeds side win three grand finals.

do you not see. most fans think the same,most non leeds anyway. most accept you have the best team,and dont slag the other players off. i have thought this for years. against the dobbins last week i thought he had a good game

i suprised myself. had he backed it up tonight i would have been on the way to changing my mind. but he was a coward and he was e. carried in a good side IMO.

I couldn't care less really if he stays or goes. I just cannot wait for the day until he starts with someone like Radders who will clearly put him in his place! I find it a joke the way he acts when he is on the pitch!

We've got the best academy in the country and are probably the only club in the country that makes money. So we could buy someone or bring someone through the ranks if it was deemed necessary.

If our world class coaches thought Bailey wasn't up to it, then thats where the cap money would be spent

Guess what. They don't think that.

"Ashmeister" does though (who, I hear you shout

)

you sure about that?

Name me one of your academy props that are good enough and ready for super league ?

You have NO ONE! You might have some good talents but no one near enough ready.

And FWIW. you cant just release Bailey because you feel like it, his got a contract and there is a salary cap in place. If Bailey does not improve (which he wont) he will not be getting a new contract at Leeds.

Yes

I think you need to take a bat to your PC to save you from further embarrassment.

I didn't say they would release Bailey. But he's been a Leeds first teamer for about 7 years now. Do you think he signed a 10 year contract on his 17th Birthday?

AFAIK, he signed a new contract last year. So McLennan was in charge and obviously felt he was someone he wanted in his squad. If Leeds had any reservations about him, they wouldn't have used space on the cap up on him for the next couple of years would they

You're embarrassing yourself

Why on earth would we want to release him. We rate him.

Opposition fans hate him. We get it. That's an added bonus with Bailey.

Do you really think he gets in the team because we've no other option? Really? Are you that stupid?

We've retained him and let the following players go, Dowes, Ward, Scruton and Carvell. Those four are decent props but none are better than Bailey who we retained in preference. Before you respond "they are all better" they're not. Not in my opinion or the opinion of the people responsible for building and coaching our team and they have, after all, built a pretty decent one.

BTW, thanks for talking about props produced by our Academy. I just named 4, 2 of which have played for GB (as has Bailey). Two of your recent front row servants came from our Academy.

Just what do you know about the players in our Academy?

Yeah right!
Bailey offers you nothing in attack and is cheap shot merchant in defence!

Some good points but it could also been seen as bad judgement by your coaching staff. As Carvell, Dowes and Scruton are all better than Bailey.

Dident Carvell and Dowes want first team rugby as they was just breaking onto the scene also dident Dowes go on loan at first to Hull and he really impressed ? and im positive Scruton went for the money ?

How many times have Ward Carvell Dowes and Scruton been capped by GB between them?

Opinions are subjective. Here are the facts. Leeds had all those players I named on their books. They released them or didn't retain them.

They retained Bailey. In doing so, they've won 3 of the last 5 Grand finals. Those players released have won exactly how many?

Thats because of the other players you have in your team. So your telling me that Bailey actually made a difference in all them finals? Except making himself look like a complete idiot. I can't believe someone is actually defending Ryan Bailey! Pmsl

Bailey gets in the team week after week and has done so for the last 4 or 5 years. Now if they were simply playing him because there was no one else I think it might have been sorted out before now.

Bryn Hargreaves was retained over Nick Fozzard this year. That does not make Hargreaves a better player. Circumstances play a big part when contracts are given. Dowes was rated very highly at Leeds. It could of been the fact Leeds where offering less years and money.

Same with Sruton, im sure he left rather than you releasing him. He wanted more money.

Bailey as won things playing in a better team. Just like Hargreaves as won many things at Saints. This doesent make Hargreaves a better player than the likes of Dowes just because his got a few winners medals.

I'll make the point again slowly so you can keep up.

Leeds retained Bailey in preference to Ward, Scruton, Carvell and Dowes. Leeds judgment should be trusted on this because of the success they've enjoyed.

You don't rate Bailey. I get it. I do.

Nowt to get excited about. Your ill informed opinion won't remove him from the Leeds team just like the inferior talents of your "favourites", Dowes Thackray and Carvell couldn't.