IF he has broken a rule he deserves not to play, but you don't know he has and therefore shouldn't post it on the forum.

Why - who have I libelled? What have I said that is patently untrue?

So you agree that club discipline should override other selection issues?

You went on the assumption that Thackers has broken a club rule, we don't know he has, it could be said you have libelled him.

And on the other thing, within reason yes. But if you were short and desperate for players then the player should be allowed to play.

We don't know he hasn't.

We don't know how he's trained.

We don't know.

Tony Smith does.

That's why fekkwitts should avoid knee jerks.

Capiche?

Where have I said that or even implied that Jamie Thackray has broken any kind of club rule, let alone done so in a way that could be said to have damaged his reputation sufficiently to quantify as libel?

So if you were a player who had been left out by the same coach previously for disciplinary reasons, how would that make you feel and what do you think it would do for morale in the locker room?

Why post ridiculous speculation then?

For what it's worth he had a stinker last week and that's perhaps the reason has been dropped, all I was saying was that Smith could have give him a kick up the backside other ways, I'm sure he could have made an impact for us tomorrow night against the likes of Moore and Bibey.

If you believe everything you hear the morale in the dressing room is very poor anyway.

No he didn't. He outlined a hypothetical situation, and did not name any particular player in doing so. You can't libel or slander somebody by saying "lets suppose, hypothetically, that....."

I thought you didn't believe in posting idle speculation?

He has been dropped because he cannot catch the ball...end of

Thought I'd get a bite there



If you believed every rumour about the club you would go crazy, hense why it's best to leave them out.

Part of the tough Wakey pack you were lauding earlier?

Indeed, if there are 2 more improved players in the Super League I want to find them.

Both will have found it relatively easy to improve from zero. Neither would get in our team, even with key linch-pin Jamie Thackray absent.

I reckon Moore would.

Oh come on, that is been completely arrogant.

I give you Bibey. But Moore would quite easily get in anyones form team for 2007 above ANY of our props.

I think you took your response too far there.

And despite your optimism, look at the two squads on paper, and Wakeys pack looks much better than ours for tomorrow. Just aswell we have far superior backs.

Their back row isn't much to write home about either. Their centres might give ours a run for their money. I see Sculthorpe is playing - how long before he sees red?

Thank you, Moore is as good as any other prop in SL.

Meh. Maybe so. I haven't seen him play more than a couple of times to be honest, and wasn't impressed then, so it was unfair of me to judge. Is he really better than Peacock though?

Peacock is far more effective at Second Row though, hopefully McClennan clicks on to that from the start. In terms of ability at prop, this season for clubs anyway, Moore has been consistantly better.

As a player generally NO.

But form this season consistently YES. He would have got in any side in super league this year, including Saints.

Can he repeat it next year? up to debate.

Having a glance at the squad lists, unless a lot of Wakey's forwards really have improved massively from last year and the couple of times I've seen them this year, I'd say it'd only be the front row where they'd have the edge. But again, I am perhaps ill-qualified to judge their performances.

Correction. He's playing as well as any other prop in SL.

Thats a comment straight out of the Tony Smith rule of statements.



The front row makes a big difference to a packs performance. Second rowers do not make a pack.

I think a pack is composed of all 6 players in it (allowing for interchange). I'm not convinced you want to be 2nd best in either department. Hooker is also an important role. I assume Hendo will play there tomorrow for Wakey? Again, not seen much, but I'd be amazed if he's in better form than Diskin, who has hit a bit of form of late.