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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"Don't you like posting on here then ?'"
Sounds like an invite for a ban...
A: Not when you have to wade through a sea of fekkwittery to be able to have a sensible conversation or even sensible banter with the sensible guys on here (even tvoc...). I do wish you could keep all your children under control - its bad enough when they are all out in the playground on here, but even worse when a few of them find their way onto other forums. At least we've only really got Gledhill to try and manage...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Sounds like an invite for a ban...
A: Not when you have to wade through a sea of fekkwittery to be able to have a sensible conversation or even sensible banter with the sensible guys on here (even tvoc...). I do wish you could keep all your children under control - its bad enough when they are all out in the playground on here, but even worse when a few of them find their way onto other forums. At least we've only really got Gledhill to try and manage...'"
How sensitive are you?? Where on earth do you get a potential bannng from in Gary's response??
We are actually able to discuss issues on here as the mods are pretty lenient. However I have to say, in terms of fekwits, you are up there with the best.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Well then surely that would make Barry Mac the thug? Getting one of his mates to hold someone while he has a go???'"
That's a perfectly fair question, so deserves a straight answer.
Except I've just deleted it and you can sod off because of your second post.
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I think we need to look at some of the comments from the good people of Bradford, at least some realise the OSV wont happen.
Should we look at who could stay in SL:
Leeds for their GF wins
Warrington - Won the CC
Saints - they entertain us in October
Catalans - Their unique location and the fact they've not done too bad, except this year
Wigan - Always a reasonable league position
Salford - Get =ting a new ground will help them, afterall and I'm not digging Salford here its Manchester RL.
Quins - Outside the M62 corridor
Crusaders - As Quins
Hull - Well you need one club on the east side of the 62
Hull KR - Tricky but a reasonable effort in most areas
Huddersfield Good ground but lack of fans, maybe a merger again
Bradford - Need to do something about their home or could be out
Wakey - poor stadium and no one to share with could be problematic
Castleford- £40k fines for crowd behaviour and a poor ground wont help
Therefore IMO its Cas Wakey or Bradford.
Although I dont rule out the RFL back tracking and expaning SL if the applications are of a high enough standard
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I think we need to look at some of the comments from the good people of Bradford, at least some realise the OSV wont happen.
Should we look at who could stay in SL:
Leeds for their GF wins
Warrington - Won the CC
Saints - they entertain us in October
Catalans - Their unique location and the fact they've not done too bad, except this year
Wigan - Always a reasonable league position
Salford - Get =ting a new ground will help them, afterall and I'm not digging Salford here its Manchester RL.
Quins - Outside the M62 corridor
Crusaders - As Quins
Hull - Well you need one club on the east side of the 62
Hull KR - Tricky but a reasonable effort in most areas
Huddersfield Good ground but lack of fans, maybe a merger again
Bradford - Need to do something about their home or could be out
Wakey - poor stadium and no one to share with could be problematic
Castleford- £40k fines for crowd behaviour and a poor ground wont help
Therefore IMO its Cas Wakey or Bradford.
Although I dont rule out the RFL back tracking and expaning SL if the applications are of a high enough standard
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| Quote ="Adeybull"That's a perfectly fair question, so deserves a straight answer.
Except I've just deleted it and you can sod off because of your second post.'"
Yer lashing out alot Adey that's not like you chill out lad!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"That's a perfectly fair question, so deserves a straight answer.
Except I've just deleted it and you can sod off because of your second post.'"
PMSL. You can't answer it because like you said, it is a fair question and you dont have an answer.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"
If you are so stupid that you think I said anywhere in my post that the "Thug" referred in any way to the incident (it referred to him holding Fielden while Barry Mac belted him, as it happens - the incident Bulls fans do not forget) then I pity you.
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Bailey was acting as peacemaker. In the incident you refer to Fielden was the thug. He was the one who threw the ball down and advanced towards Barrie looking for a dust up. Bailey was just holding him back to protect his team mate. Barrie, of course, being Barrie, was only too happy to give Fielden what he was asking for, a smack on the chops.
You have you fair share of fekkwitts on RA&B these days as well, btw.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"My credibility in the eyes of a fekkwit like you or the fekkwit who posted before you means not one jot to me'"
Which is why you didn't bother replying. Oh, hang on!
Quote ="Adeybull"If you are so stupid that you think I said anywhere in my post who the main perpetrator was then I pity you.'"
Well why else would Bailey be a thug and Walker not, when the non thug got double the sentence of the supposed thug?
Quote ="Adeybull"If you are so stupid that you think I said anywhere in my post that the "Thug" referred in any way to the incident (it referred to him holding Fielden while Barry Mac belted him, as it happens - the incident Bulls fans do not forget) then I pity you.'"
Ah right, so a thug is someone who holds someone while another carries out an attack but someone who carries out an attack is not? Ok then.
You're strange.
Quote ="Adeybull"Since the incident, whenever I saw Walker on the park he conducted himself well. Enough for me to comment - on your own bloody fekkwit-ridden forum - how well he seemed to have responded to what happened.'"
So what dreadful deeds has Bailey done on the park then since the incident to warrant the thug status? Grabbed somebodies arm? Tickled their feet? Maybe stroked their hair? Or did he hold someone back again?
Quote ="Adeybull"Start reading what people actually said, rather than what you think they said, eh? '"
Oh I've read what you posted alright and as per usual you're in La La land.
You can't seriously believe this stuff.
Feel free to keep not giving one jot what I think but please do reply to this as your posts are a source of great amusement. You should do stand up!
I await more jokes with baited breath.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"That's a perfectly fair question, so deserves a straight answer.
Except I've just deleted it and you can sod off because of your second post.'"
I hate you Rhinos!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"That's a perfectly fair question, so deserves a straight answer.
Except I've just deleted it and you can sod off because of your second post.'"
Oh dear.
Go collect your teddy bear from the floor.
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| Quote ="G1"Bailey was acting as peacemaker. In the incident you refer to Fielden was the thug. He was the one who threw the ball down and advanced towards Barrie looking for a dust up. Bailey was just holding him back to protect his team mate. Barrie, of course, being Barrie, was only too happy to give Fielden what he was asking for, a smack on the chops.'"
So Bailey isn't a thug then?
Or, is bailey a thug and walker not?
Or Walker is and Bailey not?
Or are both of them thugs?
Or are neither thugs but did something wrong in their yourh which they regret and served their time for?
I think Bailey must have done something else since the incident and i'm on tenterhooks waiting to see what it is.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Sounds like an invite for a ban...
A: Not when you have to wade through a sea of fekkwittery to be able to have a sensible conversation or even sensible banter with the sensible guys on here (even tvoc...). I do wish you could keep all your children under control - its bad enough when they are all out in the playground on here, but even worse when a few of them find their way onto other forums. At least we've only really got Gledhill to try and manage...'"
Or you could just accept that people are entitled to their own opinions, they don't always have to match yours, they are entitled to express them openly, and you can choose to ignore them rather than going off on a petulant rant and denouncing everyone as a fekkwit who doesn't agree with you.
Its very strange behaviour from you of all people, are you under some stress at the moment ?
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| To be fair, his team are going through their worst run in SL, and it's all a far cry from 10 years ago. Add into the mix questions being asked re the Bulls franchise application for 2014/2015, and you can see perhaps why he's not a happy bunny.
Not that I've a great deal of sympathy though, as this was the guy at the begining of the season who appeared to be gloating over our poor start, and happily predicting our imminent downfall in a Bradford Bulls stylee.
Mind you, a probable 4th place finish could be used to justify his viewpoint!
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| How bitter is Adey
[i"He was invoking the Standard Leeds Exemption (see RFL Operational Rules, section headed "Standard Over-Arching Leeds Exemption". The relevant clause is just after the one that gives Leeds blanket exemption from forward passes, but before the one requiring refs to turn a blind eye to offsides following a penalty kick at goal.
Apparently the holiday relief on the Appeals Committee were not au fait with this wide section of the OR, and there will be hell to pay now."[/i
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| Adey is a reasonable poster who posts reasoned opinions. However, he does have a weak spot where Leeds are concerned and his persona often slips exposing a bit of a rabid and unbalanced view where we're concerned.
I take it as a compliment.
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| Quote ="G1"Adey is a reasonable poster who posts reasoned opinions. However, he does have a weak spot where Leeds are concerned and his persona often slips exposing a bit of a rabid and unbalanced view where we're concerned.
I take it as a compliment.'"
Agree completely but like all the "visitors" we get on here it's funny as fook when they go wibble!
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| One thing that keeps coming up on these threads about a SL club losing a franchise is
'The team (insert any number of teams mentioned) coming up won't add anything to SL'
What exactly do the likes of Wakefield, Cas, Crusaders or any other team offer? Surely it's about ambition, it's about players having the chance to play at the highest level and supporters to see their team play at the highest level.
Leeds are okay, you'll be there forever but why should smaller clubs be denied?
What reaction do you think there would be if Blackpool FC were told they couldn't play in the premiership because it was a closed shop and they didn't tick the right boxes?
I don't know if you're aware of this being one of the top of SL clubs but Batley can apply because they have won the Northern Rail cup yet Fev who so far have only lost 2 league games and have won the minor championship trophy or whatever it is called can't unless they reach the grand final which is nothing more than a glorified play off comp. In theory if we pick up injuries or have 2 bad games after being consistant all season we aren't allowed to apply. Stupid rule, yet Toulouse don't even need to reach a Grand Final or win the Northern Rail cup to qualify because of their special circumstances.
The answer is bring back promotion and relegation but make clubs improve facilities gradually and not spend money chasing a dream that is in the hands of the buffoons running our game.
Wakefield will go and deserve to for shafting Championship clubs with broken promises about how they would vote on certain issues.
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| Quote ="phil stone"One thing that keeps coming up on these threads about a SL club losing a franchise is
'The team (insert any number of teams mentioned) coming up won't add anything to SL'
What exactly do the likes of Wakefield, Cas, Crusaders or any other team offer? Surely it's about ambition, it's about players having the chance to play at the highest level and supporters to see their team play at the highest level.
Leeds are okay, you'll be there forever but why should smaller clubs be denied?
What reaction do you think there would be if Blackpool FC were told they couldn't play in the premiership because it was a closed shop and they didn't tick the right boxes?
I don't know if you're aware of this being one of the top of SL clubs but Batley can apply because they have won the Northern Rail cup yet Fev who so far have only lost 2 league games and have won the minor championship trophy or whatever it is called can't unless they reach the grand final which is nothing more than a glorified play off comp. In theory if we pick up injuries or have 2 bad games after being consistant all season we aren't allowed to apply. Stupid rule, yet Toulouse don't even need to reach a Grand Final or win the Northern Rail cup to qualify because of their special circumstances.
The answer is bring back promotion and relegation but make clubs improve facilities gradually and not spend money chasing a dream that is in the hands of the buffoons running our game.
Wakefield will go and deserve to for shafting Championship clubs with broken promises about how they would vote on certain issues.'"
Mate i can see your frustration and you have a point to be fair.
What the clubs mentioned offer is that they are competitive in this league already and especiallly Cas and Wakey they are producing quality youngsters.
I would prefer the promotion and relegation to be reintroduced but the RFL won't have that because the likes of Quinns,Catalans and Crusaders(this year aside) would be under threat.
The Crusaders will be protected full stop because of the farce of last year and the RFL would prefer to save face than judge all clubs the same.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I would prefer the promotion and relegation to be reintroduced but the RFL won't have that because the likes of Quinns,Catalans and Crusaders(this year aside) would be under threat.'"
The reason P&R won't be reintroduced has feck all to do with expansion and everything to do with stopping clubs from spending money they don't have just to try and stay in the competition, bankrupting themselves in the process (see Oldham and Workington for two examples before SL closed its doors to automatic P&R).
Having a franchise system gives some degree of certainty to clubs and enables them to plan in the long term rather than looking to make short term signings every year just to ensure they stay in the competition.
If you go back to P&R, you can kiss goodbye to a number of Championship clubs as they spend themselves into oblivion trying to win the holy grail of a SL place, then stay there.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Agree completely but like all the "visitors" we get on here it's funny as fook when they go wibble!
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I think it started when nobody laughed at his joke.
Quote ="Adeybull"And OK, I could not resist telling Peter Hood as he went past with half a dozen chairs that this gave the description "Chairman" a whole new meaning.'"
I fear my sides would have split had I been there.
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| Quote ="G1"Adey is a reasonable poster who posts reasoned opinions. However, he does have a weak spot where Leeds are concerned and his persona often slips exposing a bit of a rabid and unbalanced view where we're concerned.
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He's the supporter equivalent of Chris Caisley then.
I also agree with your summation of the McDermott/Fielden skirmish at Valley Parade. The initial challenge that Fielden objected to was completely legal. Ganson couldn't have got it more wrong if he tried.
Quote ="phil stone"I don't know if you're aware of this being one of the top of SL clubs but Batley can apply because they have won the Northern Rail cup yet Fev who so far have only lost 2 league games and have won the minor championship trophy or whatever it is called can't unless they reach the grand final which is nothing more than a glorified play off comp. In theory if we pick up injuries or have 2 bad games after being consistant all season we aren't allowed to apply. Stupid rule, yet Toulouse don't even need to reach a Grand Final or win the Northern Rail cup to qualify because of their special circumstances.'"
Those are the rules and they have been in place for two seasons. What happened to Featherstone in the Northern Rail Cup? Did they give it a high enough priority?
The inclusion of the Northern Rail winner extends the possible ways to tick the box. That would be welcomed by the Championship clubs I'd have thought.
I wasn't aware that Toulouse could apply without ticking that particular box. If true then that is just wrong.
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Tonight's crowd at the Knoll will be interesting. Will it top 1,000?
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| It's a shame that he hasn't been back to apologise.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
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Tonight's crowd at the Knoll will be interesting. Will it top 1,000?'"
Att: 1,122 According to skysports.com`s score centre!
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| Phew, that was close.
There have been a total of 2,469 SL Regular Round games.
That attendance is, I believe, the 3rd lowest.
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