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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"It makes me laugh that people think that dropping a player will give him more confidence.
How exactly does that work?'"
He'd play in the reserve's away from the limelight and the pressure of SL where i'd expect him to shine thus improving his confidence whilst eliminating any anxiety.
Plus it'd give him a reminder that 1st team spots are earned on form.
Do you think continually picking him whilst he isn't performing will turn it around??
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"The Leeds fekwits have got to have someone to have a go at each season.'" Do you not think it speaks volumes that I am criticising Donald's form.
I can remember the support I posted on here for Donald in 2006. What were you posting?
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| If a player is really out of sorts then dropping him for a more in-form player would also send a message to others who may be 'struggling'. It's part of how coaches earn their dough IMO.
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| All this talk of scotty being a "confidence player" makes me think of the days when that very tag was attached to Marcus St Hilaire. When you don't got it.... you don't got it.
bluey might have even cut Donald Kebab mix in the off season if he had the chance
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| Quote ="Gotcha"The number of tries scored on the left side in Rugby League far outweighs the number scored on the right side.'"
That's because most people are right handed so it's more fluid passing to the left.
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| Quote ="G1"Do you not think it speaks volumes that I am criticising Donald's form.
I can remember the support I posted on here for Donald in 2006. What were you posting?'"
I was also supporting Donald.
Why does it speak volumes that you are criticizing Donald??
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I was also supporting Donald. '"
I wasn't. He's always been a useless ginger chancer.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"It makes me laugh that people think that dropping a player will give him more confidence.
How exactly does that work?'"
Emma - somewhere that has to be a point where you cannot keep picking a player who is under performing - it sends out the wrong message to other players in squad that some are untouchable
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Emma - somewhere that has to be a point where you cannot keep picking a player who is under performing - it sends out the wrong message to other players in squad that some are untouchable'"
I agree. But dropping him to 'boost his confidence' is laughable IMO.
The 'swop' has not worked for Donald. Why not try him back on his natural side for a couple of matches?
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Why not try him back on his natural side for a couple of matches?'"
Why not drop him and give a young Brit a go after impressing during the game time he's recieved?
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I agree. But dropping him to 'boost his confidence' is laughable IMO.
The 'swop' has not worked for Donald. Why not try him back on his natural side for a couple of matches?'"
And you think that continuing to play in front of a capacity crowd, and hearing the groans whenever he cocks up again is in someway going to motivate him?
Or that his fellow team members are delighted in effectively playing a man short in the squad?
We've had two excellent seasons from Scotty, whilst the rest has been a catalogue of under achievment, with this year being a mirror of his first season.
He can play on the left wing when he's back in Oz. We should continue with the excellent pairing of Hall and Senior.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"
Why does it speak volumes that you are criticizing Donald??'" Because I have been his staunchest defender on these boards.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I agree. But dropping him to 'boost his confidence' is laughable IMO.
The 'swop' has not worked for Donald. Why not try him back on his natural side for a couple of matches?'"
So continuing to play him will improve his confidence!! - dropping/rest - cannot make his confidence any worse surely
A team that is not playing well cannot afford to carry anyone - I would swop him for 3/4 weeks if that doesn't work then I think a rest is in order
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"So continuing to play him will improve his confidence!! - dropping/rest - cannot make his confidence any worse surely
A team that is not playing well cannot afford to carry anyone - I would swop him for 3/4 weeks if that doesn't work then I think a rest is in order'"
According to Emma, all you have to do to stay in the Leeds side is stand behind the posts shouting "come on chaps, I know I'm useless but hey I'm motivational".
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"I agree. But dropping him to 'boost his confidence' is laughable IMO.
The 'swop' has not worked for Donald. Why not try him back on his natural side for a couple of matches?'" Because Hall is playing better than Donald did last year when he was on the left. Although I do agree that we should change them round, Donald may return to some of his form from the previous 2 seasons, and Hall will be solid at least on the right.
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| Continuing to pick him COULD send out the message that you believe in him, think he's a good enough player and he'll come through a drop in form sooner rather than later. By the same token it could end up destroying a player, as he continues to struggle week in, week out. That's a decision for the coach to make, and is a big reason why he's employed.
Also, putting him in the reserves could either allow him to "find his feet" again, or make him think he's not wanted or make the situation worse.
I'd agree the current situation can't go on, but how to solve it is not something that's easy to predict.
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| form has to be chosen IMO
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"form has to be chosen IMO'"
Dont say that Loz.....
Regards,
Donald
Bailey
Kirke
Webb
Burrow
Kylie
JJB
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| Quote ="Richie Ramrod"Dont say that Loz.....
Regards,
Donald
Bailey
Kirke
Webb
Burrow
Kylie
JJB'"
As does your list here....
Donald does come out top of the "off form list"
JJB & Burrow have been Injury hit as well
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"Continuing to pick him COULD send out the message that you believe in him, think he's a good enough player and he'll come through a drop in form sooner rather than later. By the same token it could end up destroying a player, as he continues to struggle week in, week out. That's a decision for the coach to make, and is a big reason why he's employed.
Also, putting him in the reserves could either allow him to "find his feet" again, or make him think he's not wanted or make the situation worse.
I'd agree the current situation can't go on, but how to solve it is not something that's easy to predict.'"
I guess this is where having a coach with good man management skills comes in
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"I guess this is where having a coach with good man management skills comes in'"
I think Tony Smith would take the hard line approach and drop him. I hope Brian can do the same.
Squads lighter this year but if Halls fit then it would be easier to pick Hall & Watkins than sticking with Donald. Heck why not ever add BJB to the mix.
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| Quote ="chapylad"I was thinking the same thing myself.
Would it be a good idea to drop Donald to the reserves.
Would this improve his confidence or destroy it.
Was it last month or the month before Watkins was copping some grief from the fans?'"
I know they gave the old shin splits excuse but i think when Bluey dropped Maguire from the team (even if only to bench) for Murrayfield he came back much stronger and has gone from strength to strength.
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| Quote ="andih"I know they gave the old shin splits excuse but i think when Bluey dropped Maguire from the team (even if only to bench) for Murrayfield he came back much stronger and has gone from strength to strength.'"
McGuire does have a genuine history of trouble with shin splints though.
Donald's form fell apart at Manly part way through 2005 and they dropped him to reserve grade. There was no recovery in form and I don't recall him playing for them again.
Maybe dropping a complacent player is a good thing but if its confidence that's lacking perhaps not.
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| Quote ="mps"very rare a team has two top class specialist wingers, the cap does not allow it, i do notice how many wingers get tackled because they are carrying the ball in the hand they should be handing off with, or stepping inside off the weaker foot. unfortunatley for donald he has drawn the short straw out of two left wingers.'"
tonights monday club conversation... hugo mongyaaaaeea (british lions left winger) would have scored 2 tries had he had the ball in his left hand and used his right to hand off with, maybe its not a specialist posistion anymore.
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| Quote ="mps"tonights monday club conversation... hugo mongyaaaaeea (british lions left winger) would have scored 2 tries had he had the ball in his left hand and used his right to hand off with, maybe its not a specialist posistion anymore.'" Correct, and at International level, not being able to carry and fend well with both hands is abit of a poor do really, seen as they get all that money, and all the time they need to practice.
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