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| Newman has been dreadful again
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| Newman pushing his own teammates after he threw an utterly crap pass.
World class w**ker and that’s all he is world class at.
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Leeds Into The Six After Derby Win Over CastlefordThe West Yorkshire derby had it all to play for as Castleford Tigers travelled the short distance to Headingley to take on the arch enemy the Leeds Rhinos as both sides desperately needed the two points on offer. The visitors couldn’t improve their league position with a win but could increase the gap between themselves and the bottom two club while the Rhinos knew that a win by more than twelve points would lift them into the top six, at least for the next twenty hours. The Rhinos were handicapped by ten on the coupon, the bookies thinking that it would be a Rhinos win but not necessarily a convincing one. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...
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Leeds Into The Six After Derby Win Over CastlefordThe West Yorkshire derby had it all to play for as Castleford Tigers travelled the short distance to Headingley to take on the arch enemy the Leeds Rhinos as both sides desperately needed the two points on offer. The visitors couldn’t improve their league position with a win but could increase the gap between themselves and the bottom two club while the Rhinos knew that a win by more than twelve points would lift them into the top six, at least for the next twenty hours. The Rhinos were handicapped by ten on the coupon, the bookies thinking that it would be a Rhinos win but not necessarily a convincing one. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...
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| I’d f**k Newman off, kid’s just a prick.
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| Not a perfect performance, but we played with good energy in attack and defence.
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| can see how newman and welsby are friends
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| Much better all round performance and much more aggressive.
Again is that because of who we are playing?
Forwards running harder and not much passive defence going on this time.
Mik, Martin, O`connor, Handley and Croft the best of our lot.
Newman worse player in our team again today.
And why is it when he makes a mistake it`s someone else`s fault.
Grow up lad and get focussed on playing the game otherwise you are going to be another Jake Connor.
Smith bombing a certain try first half with a 2 man overlap.
A bit more skill and we would have scored 50 tonight.
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| Re Newman, tough decisions need to be made. His behaviour is a disgrace. In this sport, the ‘team’ is everything. Weird guy.
Cam Smith needs to return to basics. He’s not a half back. There’s a good player in there. He found it too easy at academy level.
Croft was excellent. Real work ethic. Johnson is an out and out hooker, it’ll be a shame to lose him.
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| Away on hols not seen it but sounds like we did enough against a poor team. Will watch it later.
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| Cas were rubbish and they seemed to be using forwards as half backs, however there were some real positives, mainly we we aggressive in defence and there was more structure. Just a few bits of skill let us down other wise it would have been 50+
Both Cam Smith and Harry Newman had shockers though, they need to work on some stuff because that’s not good enough for two senior players.
Frawley, Martin, Mom, oconner and Croft were my picks of the players.
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| Quote ="Danibo160"can see how newman and welsby are friends'"
Welsby wins things at least.
Newman is a petulant child with ZERO, I repeat ZERO trophies.
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| Quote ="Les Norton"Re Newman, tough decisions need to be made. His behaviour is a disgrace. In this sport, the ‘team’ is everything. Weird guy.
Cam Smith needs to return to basics. He’s not a half back. There’s a good player in there. He found it too easy at academy level.
Croft was excellent. Real work ethic. Johnson is an out and out hooker, it’ll be a shame to lose him.'"
Agree on Newman, believes his own hype.. We must have 2 of the worst centres in the league.. Neither have done anything this season.
Also agree on the other players mentioned. I presume Roberts was dropped for Alfie?
Can't take anything from this game with regards to "how good are we really" as Cas were garbage.... Still lack any real punch in the middle. Still don't rate Frawley.. it's easy to look like world beaters against poor opposition... but it's a win, 2 points and hopefully a bit of positivity for the team.
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| Newman needs dropping until his attitude improves. Thought cam smith was again poor today. Constantly last to get back inside, holding the ball too long and killing moves. On a plus thought Miller was decent and frawley looked good. Still missing a good bit of go forward from the props though at beginning of matches
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| I'll take the win but for mine that's the worst Cas team I've seen in nearly 50 years.
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| Cam Smith had a shocker of a game, I thought Miller & Croft played well too,
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| I've said before, Cam Smith's instincts are all wrong about what he needs to do when the team isn't playing that well. He wants to get involved but he ends up just getting in the way. He needs to simplify his game and focus on just banging in on attack and defence, and trying to pass much less often. He's way too slow in thought and action to try to act as a playmaker.
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| Take the win, and more comfortable than a lot of us predicted
As already mentioned, Smith and Newman, both awful
Martin, croft and Handley all good
Momerovski offers very little ball in hand, he dosnt look lightweight, but certainly runs like it, was solid defensively to be fair, with 1 very good read.
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| My initial take was mixed. Mainly I’m happy that certain doom mongers were disappointed and we get 1 week more of sunshine in our lives.
However I didn’t agree with RS that we saw a good performance there. Our attack broke down multiple times and we are garbage in yardage still. The game was what it was; a mid-table side v a relegation side (we just happen to have three relegation quality sides this season).
Another worked move off a scrum; Croft is organising Newman and Handley, all looks interesting and then the pass from the scrum is round his ankles and he gets whacked by the defence. That’s us in a nutshell.
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| INOUT Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Take the win, and more comfortable than a lot of us predicted
As already mentioned, Smith and Newman, both awful
Martin, croft and Handley all good
Momerovski offers very little ball in hand, he dosnt look lightweight, but certainly runs like it, was solid defensively to be fair, with 1 very good read.'"
Like just about everybody else I agree on Smith. I was hopeful before the season began that he would play much more direct thereby creating room for our new spine and helping out our undersized props, but his ambles across the line do the exact opposite. Disagree on Momorosvki. I never expected him to be as good in the yardage carries as McDonald but I did expect him to be a wingers centre and I think he is. He really looked after Edgell well and the way he straightens his line will always provide chances for overlaps if he gets a supply of decent ball. Really don't know what to say about Newman other than that he'd do well to focus on the basics. He was making the same mistakes in the warm up that he made during the game.Enjoyed the game because my expectations were so low, pretty much anything positive was a pleasant surprise.
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| Handleys try was a well executed move, from the scrum. Just the type of play we have seen too little of this season.
Agree with what has been said about Cam Smith. He plays as if he is the main half back in the team. As much as i dont rate Frawley, it cant help playing second fiddle to Smith most of the game. He can be an effective forward taking the ball up but wants to play halfback too often.
An improved display but Cas are the worst team ive seen at HQ this season.
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| London were worse surely? I thought Cas were really poor.
Our D for their try from their number 11 was embarrassing.
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| In a nutshell, an abject Cas team were accordingly routed by their opponents. Long term positives, an excellent crowd ensures maximum “Fandom” points from IMG thus mitigating the threat of relegation for at least another year. Short term positives, we all go home happy with the sun on our backs laughing hysterically at just how bad Cas were. We have a couple of byes coming up soon guaranteeing us another 4 points and a game against opponents below us in the league (Leigh). We also have the bonus of the crazy “extra” games against London and Hull later in the season, another two byes and another 4 points. This season we have 16 points basically handed to us on a plate, it’s a great foundation from which to build our title challenge. In reality, yesterday was just 2 points against one of the bottom tier Superleague teams. We all know nothing can be based on games like yesterday’s. You can’t judge structure, line speed, technical improvements etc because everything is so much slower and less physical against jokers like Cas. Energy is drained, line speed becomes slower and errors occur against better quality opposition, and that’s when I’ll be judging any perceived improvement. I’m enjoying the win and feeling less stressed after yesterday, but not kidding myself one bit that it’s an indication of how we are going to perform when the going gets tough.
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| Just watched it and all has been said really.
Cas are really poor - game, but poor.
Should have been 50 if we'd been more clinical.
Smith was awful. He's out of form right now and just needs to focus on the basics.
Newman was poor. He really needs to stop screaming at his team mates. It's a terrible, spoilt child look. Could see us moving him on tbh.
Other than that, all reasonably positive.
Croft was excellent. A constant threat.
Martin excellent. Need to get him tied down to another deal if we can.
Loved Lisone's cameo again.
And fair play to Frawley. Had his best game for us. Some decent kicks and short passes to players hitting gaps. And his D is very strong.
Has kept the knives tucked away for at least another week....
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"INOUTLike just about everybody else I agree on Smith. I was hopeful before the season began that he would play much more direct thereby creating room for our new spine and helping out our undersized props, but his ambles across the line do the exact opposite. Disagree on Momorosvki. I never expected him to be as good in the yardage carries as McDonald but I did expect him to be a wingers centre and I think he is. He really looked after Edgell well and the way he straightens his line will always provide chances for overlaps if he gets a supply of decent ball. Really don't know what to say about Newman other than that he'd do well to focus on the basics. He was making the same mistakes in the warm up that he made during the game.Enjoyed the game because my expectations were so low, pretty much anything positive was a pleasant surprise.'"
I get what your saying regarding his basics, they are pretty solid, and compared to Newman on the other side, he looks like Matt Gidley in that regard, but im not seeing any kind of run threat from him, he dosnt break tackles, he dosnt beat players with footwork, iv yet to see him stand up his opposite man and go round him, very few clean breaks...Just all very average for me
To his credit, he does seem a fairly intelligent player, and god knows we need some of them
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