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Warrington Wolves Level Second After Wrecking The Rhinos Play Off HopesThe side which no coach wanted to face in round twenty-two, a buoyant Leeds Rhinos under the coaching of Brad Arthur who took the scalp of the Champions last weekend, became the task of Sam Burgess and his high-flying Warrington Wolves as they continue their quest for a top two finish and a home tie in the playoffs. The two points could lift the Wolves into second, should the winning margin be large enough, but if the Leeds Rhinos were to make it back-to-back victories, then they would get themselves within two points of a play-off place and a shot at Old Trafford in five rounds time. Warrington were slight favourites with the bookies, the Rhinos given a six-point start by the handicappers, but Burgess was sending his troops into battle with no illusions that this would be a simple victory. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...
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Warrington Wolves Level Second After Wrecking The Rhinos Play Off HopesThe side which no coach wanted to face in round twenty-two, a buoyant Leeds Rhinos under the coaching of Brad Arthur who took the scalp of the Champions last weekend, became the task of Sam Burgess and his high-flying Warrington Wolves as they continue their quest for a top two finish and a home tie in the playoffs. The two points could lift the Wolves into second, should the winning margin be large enough, but if the Leeds Rhinos were to make it back-to-back victories, then they would get themselves within two points of a play-off place and a shot at Old Trafford in five rounds time. Warrington were slight favourites with the bookies, the Rhinos given a six-point start by the handicappers, but Burgess was sending his troops into battle with no illusions that this would be a simple victory. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...
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| Former coach telling Kendall he's a jumped up hasn't helped with the 50/50s but doesn't count for anything we just have to suck it up we are just not that good.
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| Former coach telling Kendall he's a jumped up hasn't helped with the 50/50s but doesn't count for anything we just have to suck it up we are just not that good.
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| Didn’t enjoy that really Elland Road is a dump and the ref basically killed the game as a contest in that second half imo, that no knock on then yellow to fus did it for the contest.
There was a lot of positives from the game but as I say was not an enjoyable experience at all.
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| We were definitely second best but not by much. We didn't show enough creativity and got caught napping in defence a couple of times but otherwise, good effort. With a little bit more luck, who knows?
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Sone positives in this performance , if we got a fair ref thats maybe a one score game.
Seen enough of Sinfield now to know he’s just not good enough and not the answer, time to move on'"
Sinfield’s young. What’s Frawley’s excuse?
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| We were definitely missing Croft
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| Even if I assume Kendall isn’t biased, I just dislike the way he refs. Always seems to lose control.
I thought we were better than an 18 point difference. Some players have found form. Jack and Frawley are probably too much the same to play together. If can smith is the problem, I’d back Arthur to work it out quite quickly.
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| Arthur very critical if the ref and rightly do, Wilkin even agreeing. Refs and RFL need be be showings ref need to be held accountable for such poor performances
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Arthur very critical if the ref and rightly do, Wilkin even agreeing. Refs and RFL need be be showings ref need to be held accountable for such poor performances'"
Unfortunately wouldn’t shock me if he got fined. Of the three decisions he mentioned the only one I think Kendall may have got right was the strip, I thought someone maybe McDonnell peels away from the tackle. I know it’s a different rule in the NRL. If the ball carrier broke the tackle I’m not sure how you call that.
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| Well played there Leeds - scoreline was in no way a reflection of how close that was. Thought the unjustified yellow turned the game really to our advantage. Your line speed was incredibly impressive and I actually thought you controlled the ruck for the most part up until the sin bin.
Hopefully you can keep hold of Arthur, you look a different team with him at the reins. If hes there next season I expect you to be right up around the top again.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Arthur very critical if the ref and rightly do, Wilkin even agreeing. Refs and RFL need be be showings ref need to be held accountable for such poor performances'"
The refs are working under impossible guidelines from the RFL. They are being told to card players for sneezing at the opposition. Don’t look to the RFL for answer's, as they are the root of the issue. The game in this country is almost unwatchable imho……
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| Think we should also give credit to Warringtons defence in that first half when we threw a lot at them but we didn`t have that cutting edge to break them down.
Definitely looked a knock on by them before the Fusitua sin bin that was never a sin binning and cost us 10 points.
Even without that I didn`t think we had the guile to score against Wires defence.
I hope we don`t let O`Connor go and again not sure why Bentley is getting stick as he made a bucket load of tackles tonight.
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| We look so much better with OConnor at 13.
I don't know where Cameron Smith fits into this team.
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| Thought there were some real positives in among that performance, still got too many dumb mistakes in us, but getting better, defensivley its night and day different, its enjoyable watching us defend now.
Big concern is newman, he looks like an absolute plodder
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| Quote ="Shabino"What do you expect from games? Think your gonna be disappointed a lot!'"
Depends which game. I expect to lose against the better teams, and most of the time show little flair in attacking positions. I expect to have a mixed bag against the average teams, and beat the really poor one’s anchored at the bottom of the table. That is based on our current squad and managers over this season . If you had asked me at the start of the season my expectations would have been a lot higher. The important context in my quote you referenced was I replied to posters that seemed happy to be losing games narrowly, or happy to lose and have some perceived plus points to take from a game. All a bit defeatist and overly optimistic for my liking. Have I been disappointed a lot this season ? The short and obvious answer is yes, what were you really expecting ? Was I disappointed tonight ? again yes. Only one of the Arthur Clues “ building for the future” crew would have been happy or taken many positives from tonight. He probably bought a bottle of Dom Perignon on the way home to celebrate being beaten by less than 20 points. Others will flip flop and say Momorovski had a decent game and ignore Frawley being back to terrible again. That shows what a low bar some people set regarding us as a club and what we should be expecting and accepting. I would say the negatives outweighed the positives again tonight, the only defence could be the ref was poor for us and once again showed the two tier refereeing system at it’s best. Many will be happy to ignore the fact we played against 12 and a half men for most of the game and failed to take advantage. The half of a man managed to score a hat trick on one leg as well. Overall, lots to build on for the Arthur Clues Crew and not much else for the realists.
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| INOUTNot too downhearted about that. Physically we aren't getting rolled anymore, which is huge difference even though we have next to no props. Small margins in games like that and the ref tipped it significantly in Wires direction. If Croft had played we'd have scored more points and missed less tackles. Young Jack needs to spend some time on loan at Championship level, to allow the club to make a proper judgement on his future. Thought both Mom and Newman were excellent. I have to say that Wire are a very good side. Here's hoping it's them and KR in the final.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Depends which game. I expect to lose against the better teams, and most of the time show little flair in attacking positions. I expect to have a mixed bag against the average teams, and beat the really poor one’s anchored at the bottom of the table. That is based on our current squad and managers over this season . If you had asked me at the start of the season my expectations would have been a lot higher. The important context in my quote you referenced was I replied to posters that seemed happy to be losing games narrowly, or happy to lose and have some perceived plus points to take from a game. All a bit defeatist and overly optimistic for my liking. Have I been disappointed a lot this season ? The short and obvious answer is yes, what were you really expecting ? Was I disappointed tonight ? again yes. Only one of the Arthur Clues “ building for the future” crew would have been happy or taken many positives from tonight. He probably bought a bottle of Dom Perignon on the way home to celebrate being beaten by less than 20 points. Others will flip flop and say Momorovski had a decent game and ignore Frawley being back to terrible again. That shows what a low bar some people set regarding us as a club and what we should be expecting and accepting. I would say the negatives outweighed the positives again tonight, the only defence could be the ref was poor for us and once again showed the two tier refereeing system at it’s best. Many will be happy to ignore the fact we played against 12 and a half men for most of the game and failed to take advantage. The half of a man managed to score a hat trick on one leg as well. Overall, lots to build on for the Arthur Clues Crew and not much else for the realists.
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I don't drink and drive mate.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I don't drink and drive mate.'"
Don’t Dom Perignon do an alcohol free ?
Hope you had a good day anyway despite the result.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"INOUTNot too downhearted about that. Physically we aren't getting rolled anymore, which is huge difference even though we have next to no props. Small margins in games like that and the ref tipped it significantly in Wires direction. If Croft had played we'd have scored more points and missed less tackles. Young Jack needs to spend some time on loan at Championship level, to allow the club to make a proper judgement on his future. Thought both Mom and Newman were excellent. I have to say that Wire are a very good side. Here's hoping it's them and KR in the final.'"
Mate with respect, I didn't realise Newman was playing he seemed to be awol for most of the Match and didn't even bother chasing back on any of the wire breakaways down your left side
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| Quote ="christopher"Didn’t enjoy that really Elland Road is a dump and the ref basically killed the game as a contest in that second half imo, that no knock on then yellow to fus did it for the contest.
There was a lot of positives from the game but as I say was not an enjoyable experience at all.'"
Completely agree, me and
My lad missed last week v Wigan. We sat in the Kop which was rammed in Wigan v saints game , unreserved searing , utter carnage. We sat at end of a row on the left and I hardly saw anything of Wigan game for people filling the aisles.
I thought we played pretty tough but lack of props and a few other factors meant we were always up against it. They rested 5 last week and look a serious outfit this season. It could actually be their year.
As you say Kendall ruined the game for me. We did not get a penalty or 6 again until 60th minute and I genuinely believe he takes up back further in defence.
Newman was limping a lot today ,but kept trying and thought our number 4 was
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Don’t Dom Perignon do an alcohol free ?
Hope you had a good day anyway despite the result.'"
The butler had one on ice. In fairness, I agree with a lot of what you say. I am confident that we now have a very good coach at (for how long?) at the helm, and I think he will turn it round given proper backing. I never enjoy it when we lose, but to your point - I've kinda got used to it.
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| A positive for me was reinforcing the problems we have up front but also that we lack something in attack as well. That's a positive because the last thing we need is this squad giving a false impression of how good they are (or aren't).
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| Overall a poor day from pretty much everyone in our side. Miller terrible fus crap Smith kills any play he's involved with. No power upfront apart from 2 drives from lisone before he's done for the stint. Yes the ref was poor but we would have struggled to beat a championship club today.
Sinfield just doesn't look ready/good enough at this level yet. Give him a full season at a championship club but fear he could be the next Lilley. Newman isn't the same player he was. Discipline and laziness at marker let us down repeatedly tonight.
Hopes for a top 6 finish diminish somewhat tonight but at least it highlights need for 2/3 big signings
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| Quote ="leeds owl"Depends which game. I expect to lose against the better teams, and most of the time show little flair in attacking positions. I expect to have a mixed bag against the average teams, and beat the really poor one’s anchored at the bottom of the table. That is based on our current squad and managers over this season . If you had asked me at the start of the season my expectations would have been a lot higher. The important context in my quote you referenced was I replied to posters that seemed happy to be losing games narrowly, or happy to lose and have some perceived plus points to take from a game. All a bit defeatist and overly optimistic for my liking. Have I been disappointed a lot this season ? The short and obvious answer is yes, what were you really expecting ? Was I disappointed tonight ? again yes. Only one of the Arthur Clues “ building for the future” crew would have been happy or taken many positives from tonight. He probably bought a bottle of Dom Perignon on the way home to celebrate being beaten by less than 20 points. Others will flip flop and say Momorovski had a decent game and ignore Frawley being back to terrible again. That shows what a low bar some people set regarding us as a club and what we should be expecting and accepting. I would say the negatives outweighed the positives again tonight, the only defence could be the ref was poor for us and once again showed the two tier refereeing system at it’s best. Many will be happy to ignore the fact we played against 12 and a half men for most of the game and failed to take advantage. The half of a man managed to score a hat trick on one leg as well. Overall, lots to build on for the Arthur Clues Crew and not much else for the realists.
Good post Owly and mostly true. Suppose my approach is to watch on and laugh about what we have become. Other teams fans are loving our situation. Biggest budget/resources in the league, yet missing top 6 again. Hard to believe really……
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