If Moon stays at stand off for next year we need another centre in my opinion. I like Keinhorst but I'm not sure he's got that x factor that the best centres have so I think we lose a bit out wide against the very best sides.

I'd have to disagree. I think when're keinhorst has had a run of games, he's shown he can be a big threat. His try record in the centres is very impressive. And we know from his time in second row his defence is good. I'd agree he doesn't have the attacking threat when he's playing in the second row. But at centre he keeps coming up with the goods.

Hmmm.. I'm yet to be convinced. I'm just thinking we are losing a fair bit of attacking threat out wide without Moon in the centre, no doubting Keinhorst is a decent player but he's not in Moon's league as a centre.

Out jumped Dorn! Wow, some unwarranted abuse there thunder. Maybe not my favourite (with a "u"icon_wink.gif moment but I loved the chancer's hat trick the following year when Cas put 50 past Leeds, again.
To be fair I wish DM all the best. I admire an excellent player and outstanding club servant.

No, he's not in moons league as a centre. I guess what I'm trying to say is, next year if moon plays at 6, we don't need to sign a world class centre because keinhorst is a very good super league centre. Not just making up numbers centre, very good. There are far more pressing positions to fill.

Possibly if a top quality centre becomes available, but we have Watkins, Keinhorst, L Sutcliffe and A Sutcliffe. Plus Ward has done a decent job there when we've been desperate or Moon could move back with a half coming in. So unless it's a really decent centre I think we're alright.

Yep be hard pressed to name half a dozen better home grown in super league than jimmy and name ten full stop. with approximately 24 starting in the top flight that putts him well in the top 40%

cannot stand him or his like, the type of player who holds back uk players, but seem to think they are owed a living in super league just because they cant get a gig in Nrl. been way to many of these players last 10 years or so, and we have had a few ourselves, especially recently.

I assumed he'd be retiring from playing so that he could concentrate on refereeing games full time.

Dorn was IMO a very good player at all his SL clubs. Looking in from the outside he appeared to give great service at London (in both guises), Salford (briefly) and Castleford. IIRC better than a try every other game - if that's a journeyman try return we could probably do with a few more rather than a few less.

I think he'll go to Hull kr.

Not sure about good, but It's more competitive than it's ever been.

Also, to be fair a single game isn't representative of the standard of the game as a whole. I'd bet you could pick some games from that year where the standard was dire, just as you could cherry pick a few from this year and suggest everything is awesome.

I wouldn't be too bothered if he played against us, Barrie McDermott did it, Ali did it, and Senior was gonna do it. Rugby League players are a long time retired so I don't blame anyone for extending their career as long as possible.

I'm disappointed he isn't becoming a skills coach, but Mac says that he isn't interested in coaching so that wouldn't happen regardless.

I'd entirely forgotten that Barrie McDermott had gone to Widnes after he left us. They were NL1 at the time. Did he ever play against us after he'd left?

For me the anticipation of a Bulls v Saints or Saints v Wigan clash in those days was always greater than it is today.

In those days I could think 6-8 really great games a year now I am struggling to think of 1-2 really great games in a season.

Last night's game shows how far backwards the game has gone - the messing about in the tackle is embarrassing and ruined the game as a spectacle.

Correct and no he didnt.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/40608897 Hull KR has publicly announced their interest in McGuire, suggests it depends on whether they get promotion to SL though.

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/40608897 Hull KR has publicly announced their interest in McGuire, suggests it depends on whether they get promotion to SL though.

Been a pleasure watching this lad from the u16's onwards a Leeds Legend & HOF player along with Sinny & JP hugely under-rated by the great unwashed over the years.
Im surprised he's gonna play on tbh but it's the right time for him & Leeds to part but what a player.
Cheers Mags.

Just a reminder that I did post the Hull KR story the day MaGuire announced he was leaving !

Some people get so caught up in trying to claim a scoop. Who actually cares?

Oh some are ridiculous sensitive to their rumours being questioned, that's why I have a new username

Absolutely No-one.......except the know it all brigade.

Rediculous

Not strictly true, but....