The more Aussies in the side the better our chances.

The more NRL players in our side the better our chances.

Wayne Bennett knows this and should select players accordingly.

Refugees welcome!

If I was to pick a England squad now with everyone fit I'd go with

Shaul
Mcgilvery
Watkins
Sarginson
Broughton
Widdop
Gale
Hill
Hodgson
Graham
Bateman
Whitehead
S.Burgess

Subs
Houghton
T.Burgess
Cooper
Ferres


I think most of that team have been I'm good for most of the season and players who haven't been too consistent like Watkins and Burgess are class and can do something special for your team.

Watkins... Jeezus wept!

Every other country in the world (in all sports) picks the best available eligible team, regardless of place of birth. Maybe nobody has told Wayne Bennett some backward thinking flat earth brigade find it unacceptable for England rugby league to do the same.

This

The last thing RL in this country needs is England playing Australia live on the BBC to be followed by post-match interviews with England players who have Australian accents.
It would further entrench RL's status in this country as a small sport.

The sport needs an England team genuinely represented by English players if we want the England team to be taken seriously by the rest of the country.

The same goes for every other nation in RL.

Right well based on the new irfl rules we can have Cherry evens as well, I bet if you look hard enough we can have have any aussie we want that doesn't get into the Kangaroos team

In fact lets just rename England Australia B shall we?

Quote ="Him"The last thing RL in this country needs is England playing Australia live on the BBC to be followed by post-match interviews with England players who have Australian accents. It would further entrench RL's status in this country as a small sport. The sport needs an England team genuinely represented by English players if we want the England team to be taken seriously by the rest of the country. The same goes for every other nation in RL.'" Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/

Quote ="Him"The last thing RL in this country needs is England playing Australia live on the BBC to be followed by post-match interviews with England players who have Australian accents. It would further entrench RL's status in this country as a small sport. The sport needs an England team genuinely represented by English players if we want the England team to be taken seriously by the rest of the country. The same goes for every other nation in RL.'" Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/

Not every sport though allows players to represent different countries at international level. Just because our eligibility rules are different doesn't mean we should use them.

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Im sure everyone remembers the passion Brad Barrit showed for the England shirt right?

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Im sure everyone remembers the passion Brad Barrit showed for the England shirt right?

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Rugby Union isn't in the position RL is in. It doesn't need to increase its profile in this country. It doesn't need to dramatically increase revenues and sponsorship. It doesn't need to be taken seriously by the establishment including big business and the media. International Rugby Union is light years ahead of International RL in terms of credibility. We have little, they have loads.

Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Rugby Union isn't in the position RL is in. It doesn't need to increase its profile in this country. It doesn't need to dramatically increase revenues and sponsorship. It doesn't need to be taken seriously by the establishment including big business and the media. International Rugby Union is light years ahead of International RL in terms of credibility. We have little, they have loads.

I don't reckon I'm capable of forming an emotional attachment to an austro-england team. If a win means that much to some then, sure, go for it. I'll not pay to watch it though. Or even watch it, I suspect.

Them having an Aussie accent doesn't bother me, Cuthbertson for example should've been picked last year. But I think selecting someone who has not only played for Australia but played and scored against England in a 4 Nations Final would be ridiculous.

Quote ="leedsnsouths" Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Im sure everyone remembers the passion Brad Barrit showed for the England shirt right?'" Or Ben Te'O, Dylan Hartley, Tuilagi, the Vunipolas, Yarde, Harrison, Clifford from the more recent England RU squads.... That's at least 8 players in the squad who were not born and raised in England... Many with foreign accents... I don't particularly like it, but that's modern day sport - and a reflection really of modern day life. The Aussie and Kiwi RL teams do it, we've previously done it, so basically, we might as well join them, or be left further behind.... Pick the best players who are available and committed to the cause...

Quote ="leedsnsouths" Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Is Rugby Union now seen as a small sport or was it barely mentioned at the 2015 World Cup? www.americasrugbynews.com/2015/0 ... -rwc-2015/'" Im sure everyone remembers the passion Brad Barrit showed for the England shirt right?'" Or Ben Te'O, Dylan Hartley, Tuilagi, the Vunipolas, Yarde, Harrison, Clifford from the more recent England RU squads.... That's at least 8 players in the squad who were not born and raised in England... Many with foreign accents... I don't particularly like it, but that's modern day sport - and a reflection really of modern day life. The Aussie and Kiwi RL teams do it, we've previously done it, so basically, we might as well join them, or be left further behind.... Pick the best players who are available and committed to the cause...

This is a tricky one. When England have played the likes of Reed & Heighington I have been, on the whole, supportive of them in their efforts for their "mother nation" as they were one or two "Aussie speakers" in a squad of more obvious English nationals.

What if the entire squad was made up of Reed's & Heighington's? Would English RL fans feel an affinity to the team & support in good numbers (as they generally do now)? I, for one, would most definitely not.

So, should we have a quota of non-English-born players?

But presumably peoples Australian intolerance threshold would kick in at different points so I'm not sure that a quota is the answer. That said, if we can't provide any kind of a challenge with only the odd aussie plugging the odd gap we might as well not f*****g bother.

Agreed

Don't really care about England RU and eligibility rules, but for me if you aren't born in England you can't play for England. What is the point of international rugby / sport? And if you've already played for another nation, how on earth can you play for a different nation?

So what if your parents emigrate when you're a kid, and you grow up with an attachment to your new home country? Should you be denied the opportunity to represent it just because you were born somewhere else?

Or someone who comes to Britain as a refugee, like say Mo Farah or Luol Deng? I'm sure they consider themselves to be as British as anyone born here.

The global population is much more mobile these days. A larger percentage of people are living in and growing up with an attachment to a country other than the one they were born in. Sporting eligibility rules need to reflect that.

I'm no fan however of people switching from one country to the other. Once you've decided which country you want to represent, stick with it.

Atkins has played well this season and would be worthy of a spit there's a out if rugby to be played yet and I'm.sure centres a position.that's still up for grabs.

If Hodgkinson gets picked over Gale then its an absolute disgrace, and show that SL is basically pointless
Gale is tearing it up in SL, Hodkinson is struggling in NRL

As for the Morris twin, they have both played for australia and therefore would play for australia if picked

There is a HUGE difference that you are forgetting
In the case of nearly all RU international teams, you have to PLAY in that country to be eligible (the major hold out being SA)
That means that any players from Aus or NZ who play for England in RU have officially given up their chance to play for their country anyway

In RL however Hodkinson or the Morris brothers could still be picked for Aus and we might get the embarrassing situation where a player pulls out of the Aus camp and they take someone that has said they wanted to play for us!

That is the big difference why I support picking Cuthbo and not these guys

Born here or qualify through residency for me. Although the not identifying with the team argument tends to fall down when you see how much one club mentality exists between RL supporters generally.

It doesn't work that way in RU, although some unions insist on international players actually playing in their home country (which I tend not to agree with).

There's no chance the Morris brothers would be eligible or willing to play for England. They are both still in the Origin frame and also possibly Australia (although down the pecking order now). I wouldn't have a problem with Hodkinson as he hasn't played for Australia. If he wants to play I also wouldn't bet against him and Widdopp being first choice halfbacks because they at least offer control and kicking games.

I'd be surprised if a few others don't come out of the woodwork under Bennett, but most of the pack will be English.

In any event what seems small time to me is the hand-wringing that goes on whenever the very idea is mentioned. Nothing screams little-Englander flat cap mentality more than insisting that England RL should not even apply the same rules as other sports have for years.

If Hodkinson is picked over Gale (or even Matty Smith for that matter!) I will not be watching

He is playing worse that a lot of Halfbacks in SL, he would only be picked on the grounds he was an NRL player, as there are plenty of Aussies who believe that virtually EVERY player in the NRL is better than virtually every player in SL

RL has different rules to virtually EVERY other sports
In MOST sports you can only play for one country

What people fear is you will get Aussies like Hodkinson who will probably not play origin again, never mind australia, who decide that they will play for England for a payday
If we play as the Aussie B team we will never beat them, thats just logic