Sutton's a good player but tends to spend 3/4 of the season injured.

I would like to see us go for Clarke at hooker and let Falloon go.
Also happy to let Achurch go and I think we need to make a choice to release Delaney. He puts in effort but seems to be injured or carrying injuries in a large amount of games.
If we are keeping JJB and hopefully Ferres for another year and have Ablett and keinhorst we just don't need him.

Half back is a bit harder. With sutcliffe and Lilley both needing time on the pitch and some wins to improve confidence it's hard to suggest replacing them.
McGuire hasn't really had a chance yet and still hasn't settled into the captaincy given injuries.
Burrow has a skill set and some utility value but can't fill the gaps we are missing at 7 or 9.
If we signed Clarke and then a HB as well it would mean one bench spot between Burrow, sutty and Lilley so one would have to go and given his age, salary and etc I could only see Burrow leaving as the sensible option.

I'd say that some sort of steady eddie half back in the Dunemann mould would really benefit you.

A decent hooker/dummy half and a couple of decent forwards are also needed.

Leeds Rhinos are the best run club in SL with an academy system and world class sports science facilities second to none. That is the infrastructure upon which their success is based.

Surely it would be unwise to overlook all that by replacing it with a policy of knee-jerk signings? Leeds do not buy success. That's what other less well run SL clubs do. Leeds invest in longer term plans instead. In that regard, they are the SL benchmark which every other SL club must aspire to.

Leeds are not a Salford or Warrington or any other fanciful SL club whose mission statements rarely persist beyond the week after next.

One or two key signings perhaps but no more than that. Please allow Leeds famed academy system the time and space to continue producing the next golden generation.

Patience is required.

Lots of it.

I see you got your e-mail from Gary,William

Right the wrongs of this year.

Hold your hands up and say the likes of Galloway and Falloon havent cut it, get shot and replace. Instead of them falling into Achurch's position where somehow they've found themselves in employment for 4 years and have contributed nothing.

Nope, I'm not on the mailing list so not read it.

I was merely regurgitating the patronising views of the Leeds club and it's fanbase during its era of success.

It's only reasonable the club should stick to their principles of long term strategy based upon investment in academy production rather than attempting to buy their way out of their current malaise surely?

Lots of signings would be hypocritical and lack principles.

You are right William, it has been said by a lot that bringing through your own is the way to go.And it is, or it should be. Thing is Leeds got bang lucky to get so many quality youngsters coming through in one batch that is not the norm, and some always said and knew that it would only really be appreciated once they have gone.

For me, and you have brought this to our attention yourself on a regular basis, the quality of the overseas signings has been pretty poor by Leeds for a long time.We have been able to compensate for this due to having the likes of Sinfield and Peacock and others around, now we don't its painfully obvious we need to up our game in that side of our recruitment.So i don't think the majority on here are wanting a whole host of new overseas signings, just better thought out ones so that the young lads the are coming through, and there are still a few with jury still out, are not hung out to dry.

Priority has to be a quality 9 & another quality BR.
Jjb is playing well but id only renew a deal on either a payp deal or player Coach.
The Delaney situation needs looking at if we cant get him fit then maybe a settlement.

how long has Delaney got left on his present deal end of 2017?

I'd agree with Farah, although expensive and 'old' he's be a good head for the role. Also Ennis is OOC, but i don't expect will leave the Shire.

However, with both of those, money does talk.


Halves wise:

Daniel Mortimer is worth a punt - only 26 and has some good experience.

Feleti Mateo also - but age may not be on his side.

Locks:

Elijah Taylor is a good one, from Wests and utility or Michael Chee-Kam


Props:

Yeah, Hannant or Moa.





Of course, if we'd kept Amor and broken the bank for Walmsley - we wouldnt have this prop situation...

Priority has to be a coach who can get a team to play, otherwise throwing money at players isn't going to be the answer. A coach should be able to get a response and an improvement from players, reardless of senior or youngsters. How many games this season, and still to see that. That for me is the priority.

And I agree with you on the specificas of above.

Gotcha-That was purely my opinion on the playing side of recruitment i've said elsewhere id like to see a whole new Coaching set up etc.

Obsession with most-likely-out of our reach NRL players.

Some good hooker and 2nd row options over here. Add them and try and see if you can get Luke Gale from Cas.

As for props i'm prepared to give Galloway time, he was showing signs of improvement and he (like all the props) would surely benefit if we sign a proper (and good) hooker. I imagine he's always defended with a hooker in the middle with him during his career, shouldn't underestimate how tricky it possibly is to get use to not having that.

Galloway has been pretty decent last few games he certainly looks to be settling in now, And Garbutt has also been one of our better players.

This is one problem, and one you are correct on. I fear that due to Burrow's good attacking form, people will believe, and the club will believe, this can continue and happy with it. What is totally forgotten is the effect it has on the rest of the team, and weak we have looked without an accomplished hooker defending in the middle.

If we're buying in, what does it matter where they're from? We'd all no doubt prefer to have young British talent ready to step up from our Juniors, but where that's not the case, you have to buy in - I couldn't care less where that bought in talent originates from, as long as they're the best fit.

Having seen Galloways performances over the past couple of years at Wests, I don't think there's much more upside in him, regardless of which hooker is alongside him. He'll still be slow and cumbersome.

Hooker is a priority, we can afford to free up cap space by getting rid of some of our deadweight forwards and promoting Baldwinson and Smith, then go for a DECENT aussie (no more second rates) or someone like Daryl Clarke or maybe even Dwyer.

I have some faith in our young halves and would argue they are doing fairly well to create points given the lack of individual tries our backs are scoring compared to last year. Lilly needs to improve a bit and Sutcliffe needs to step up more but hopefully that will happen.
Having said that if we got benji Marshal on a 4 year deal or something I would snap it up, Id love to see him play every week, and it would be great to see him show up Sandow

I watched a lot of Wests because of Pat Richards' involvement. Galloway played alongside Aaron Woods who IMO is the best prop in the world. Marty Taupau came off the bench and he was awesome. Alongside these two Galloway looked solid but nothing special. I was surprised when Leeds got him.

But having said that he played in all four of the 4 Nations in 2011, which wasn't that long ago, so he has some pedigree. I mean to play prop for Australia you would have to think he'd be pretty good - it's not like they are short of decent players (mind you they said that about Josh Perry). Against that he only made 1 SoO appearance.

The job of a starting NRL prop is more often than not to cart the ball up one or two times a set without dropping it, and being solid in a well-organised middle defence. With exceptions like Bromwich, Graham or Fifita they're usually just spokes in a wheel. Then they come over here and the wheel isn't there and they look rubbish - Josh Perry, Ben Cross etc. perfectly servicable in the NRL and entirely unsuited to SL. Galloway may be another of them - unless they've got another part to their game like Cuthbertson they'll struggle.

The NRL props who most suit Super League are the impact forwards who run and hit at a million miles an hour, like Kylie and Sam Moa. Garbutt is probably just about in that category.

Completely agree.... He's a run of the mill, no thrills, low errors, low impact type prop (he did have a couple of good years when he got rep honours). He's no worse this year for Leeds than he was for Wests last year - but Leeds needed more from him - he could never be a like for like replacement for Peacock, few could, Leeds needed that workload sharing out, but Galloway needs to offer more, and I just don't think he's physically capable of offering much more than he currently is.

There's a few young forwards at the Warriors that would be fantastic signings, Charlie Gubb, Sam Lisone, Albert Vete, but again, I'd be very surprised if they could be pulled away from the NRL - on the open market, they'll be very much sought after.

I'd hate to see us Bring loads more Aussies over, and really don't think we should be looking over there unless they are top class (Farah). I quite like Daniel Mortimer but he isn't in that bracket.

I'd like to see us get rid of Achurch and Falloon, then possibly Galloway and Ferres depending on money, and Delaney unfortunately because he can't stay fit.

In terms of signings I think it's difficult to predict, we without a doubt need a hooker (Clarke, Farrah, Pellisier, O'Brien) If we can get one who can do a lot of defensive work we could think about moving Sutty to loos which is more and more looking like his position. We probably need at least one more prop, Baldwinson will likely leave without ever having chance to prove anything.

We are also crying out for some punch in the back row, I'd be tempted to take a punt on Williams or Hurrell in the hope they come good like Dave Taylor.

I would much rather keep a hold of Ferres than Delaney.

He's settling in now, like I said on another thread, you would have expected this from a new signing like Galloway. One problem with having Burrow at 9 is that effectively we only have 5 forwards on the pitch and our middle is under defended. A fit Aiton would have made things look so much better.
I thought both of them were very good against Hudds in the league game. Garbutt looks way fitter than last year and starting seems to suit him.

I think it's clear we need a solid defending hooker to rotate with burrow when things need switching up. I think Falloon has been unlucky with injuries but he needs to show what he's got if he is going to earn another year.

Mags and lilley at hb for me unless real quality becomes available. Ratchford is a great shout for me. Get him in next year to work with mags and lilley then he can take over when mags winds down.

Get rid of ferres and achurch. Keep jjb but again we need a succession plan for jjb and Delaney who is held together but determination alone now.

I honestly don't think we need a lot, just two or three additions of genuine quality.