Away from the silly spelling point scoring I agree with the OP

He had a quiet first season with us but for me he is an integral part of the team now with his work ethic and consistency and he was very much a Mitch Achurch signing rather than a Brett Mullins.

Good player, but also one who seems to get what the Leeds ethos is all about. Not much of a centre as it turned out, but a very good back-rower.

Was always going to be a very effective 2nd rower.....I called it.

He's at home in the 2nd row.

Was a bit like Ablett when he was in the back row - got through an absolute tun of work but tended to go unnoticed.

Delaney has always struck me as one of those players that does exactly what the coach asks of him:

Tackle anything that moves - OK boss
When you have the ball run like fekk straight forward - OK boss
For Gods sake never pass - OK boss.

Agreed. Very ordinary player with an indifferent attitude over the course of 27 regular rounds of SL but is more effective and gets stuck in during the handful of other games which actually count for something.

Aren't you due some new material? You're like the Roy Chubby Brown of RLFANS.

Disgusting that, performing when it matters the most.

I wasn't aware the ethos at Leeds had changed significantly over the past few years to warrant any new material on the topic. They still toss it off during the regular season and treat their supporter base to plenty of ordinary, below-par and downright lousy performances throughout the regular season. They only turn up to perform in the games which really count - apart from CC Finals which are a proven inconvenience in Leeds timing to peak at the right time.

Perhaps you could enlighten me on any recent modifications in the Leeds ethos which may have occurred?

I thought he was a colossus in the semi against Wigan. Sure, there were many handling errors attributed to him but most were poor judgment calls from the ref on ball steals IMO.

The rest of his game, tackling, work rate, leg drive etc was superb.

I'm guessing you'll be first in the queue to congratulate them when it does

What do you get out of thes comments?

I completely agree and - more importantly - so did BMcD. If my lip-reading is correct, at full-time he said to Delaney that he "should've been standing there" - pointing to the spot where the MOTM presentation was taking place...

He's been our best forward ever since his move from the centres.

Agreed and 100% decent bloke off the pitch as well.

very solid runner, very depandable in defence - only thing i've noticed is at times lazy at first marker, but that's nit-picking

Actually you'd have to go far to find someone who worked as hard as Delaney througout the year for any club but that would be hard for you to spot when your sitting at home on a Friday night playing Scrabble with yourself. Whilst he may not be the most skillful Second Rower ever the guy constantly ran his blood to water and was my player of the year for Leeds.

If nothing's changed, then an insistence on commenting on it leads to just typing the same thing over and over again. Surely even you must be getting a bit bored of repeating yourself by now?

Extol the virtues of your team and players by all means - they are SL champions AGAIN after all - but there's always a need to temper that approach with the reality of the situation. There are no players at Leeds who constantly run their blood to water throughout the year as the overwhelming evidence of the teams indifferent ethos and approach towards regular season fixtures testify. Finishing 5th is no fluke.

Obviously. After all, it's much easier to win a Grand Final from there than from 4th as you repeatedly try to convince us.

That the club has been so successful in securing this coveted 5th place two seasons running says a lot about the commitment and desire to achieve their goals possessed by this group of players.

Your failure to seize the opportunity to enlighten me with new insight on any changes in ethos at the club - particularly with regard to their approach during the regular season - is noted.

Correct. The evidence is incontrovertible.


Correct. The evidence for that commitment and desire among this group of players to achieve those goals is unrivalled in September and October. Finishing 5th is the effortless prelude - that's the the easy part.

I don't have the insider knowledge that would be required to substantiate such a claim, but since I have at no stage indicated that I thought any change in ethos had taken place it is as relevant as me asking you to enlighten me on new theories of the origin of the universe and then trying to look smug when you didn't do it.

My point was that you keep recycling the same tired material over and over again.

I think it would be fair to say that most regular posters (and probably most occasional visitors) on this forum are more than adequately aware of your opinions on this matter. Since you yourself say that nothing has changed, there is no reason for you to change your opinion. There is also, however, no real need for you to keep re-stating it every couple of days. We get it. Honestly. We'll keep it in mind, but you would entertain people a little more if you perhaps turned your ample wit to finding something new to talk about.

Even if you insist only on winding people up (which you're very good at, if that's something you want to take pride in) you could at least find new ways to do it.

Your lookout really, but consider this more audience feedback than anything else.

Not so. It is entirely circumstantial. Given that the phenomenon in question has occurred only twice, the fact that both occurrences involved the same team (including the same coach and most of the same players) you have a serious problem of confounded variables in your theory. This doesn't in any way disprove your theory, but it does leave you woefully short of having enough data to prove it to any satisfactory degree.

If you had that information available, that would at least give you something new to talk about.

Your lack of insider knowledge didn't prevent you from substantiating your praise of Delaney with reference to his understanding of the Leeds ethos.


Perhaps you could enlighten me instead on the characteristics of Leeds ethos in it's current unchanged state then?


Which is irrelevant in it's entirety in relation to the topic being discussed.

This same discussion took place last year. The only difference being that it was argued that this particular phenomenon had occurred just the once, was a complete one-off and very unlikely, if not impossible, to happen again. Well it did happen again. How often does it have to occur before it is deemed incontrovertible that finishing 5th is a relatively comfortable reward and play-off journey for such a lowly-placed finish on the ladder? And given the huge disparity which exists between the comparative play-off results of teams finishing 4th and 5th, how much further data is required before one concludes that finishing 5th provides an easier play-off journey than finishing 4th would provide?