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| Just for the sake of it
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| Sorry, Doh, yes, I got it in my mind for some odd reason he got a Red... he didn't. The appearance before the committee was for his post match comments.
Sorry again!
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"Sorry, Doh, yes, I got it in my mind for some odd reason he got a Red... he didn't. The appearance before the committee was for his post match comments.
Sorry again!'"
You've let everyone down, I hope your happy.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"You've let everyone down, I hope your happy.
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I will be when the review panel post their reports and Ablett is only charged with a 'Careless' tackle grade A offence....I hope?
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"We have had five players appear before the disciplinary this year, Senior twice. Of these five appearances we have only had one suspension and that was Brent Webb. One of Seniors was for his Red card at the WCC, so in regular UK season, it is really only four appearances.
In light of current discussion that is quite good in comparison to say.... Wigan!'"
We've had three players appear before the disciplinary this year, Coley twice and J Tomkins once. Only one resulted in a suspension.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I will be when the review panel post their reports and Ablett is only charged with a 'Careless' tackle grade A offence....I hope?
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The Wigan board will go into meltdown and all the conspiracy theorists will be out in force if it does.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"We've had three players appear before the disciplinary this year, Coley twice and J Tomkins once. Only one resulted in a suspension.
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Don't know about that, but interesting that both Fielden and O'Carroll have both been pulled for raising the knee in the tackle this season, and both have received a caution for it.
Surely Wigan fans would now retrospectively like to see those players banned for the offence?
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"We've had three players appear before the disciplinary this year, Coley twice and J Tomkins once. Only one resulted in a suspension.
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That's right O'Loughlin got off after taking Luke Robinson's head off.
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| Quote ="rhinobucs"That's right O'Loughlin got off after taking Luke Robinson's head off.'"
It wasnt exactly the head, and tbh I wouldnt have complained had he got banned. It shows how bad the reffing is when Lockers doesnt get at least a yellow but Coley gets one last friday.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Don't know about that, but interesting that both Fielden and O'Carroll have both been pulled for raising the knee in the tackle this season, and both have received a caution for it.
Surely Wigan fans would now retrospectively like to see those players banned for the offence?'"
Honestly cant remember them, but if they were as bad as the Bailey one then we couldnt have complained.
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| Quote ="marcel"Feels like in recent season there have been more unsavoury/borderline incidents involving us than any other team.
Off the top of my head because they were big games I remember them theres been:
Nick scrutons disgraceful speak tackle on cunningham in 08
Lee smiths stamping against wigan in the 08 eliminator
seniors kicking out at a wigan player in the cc this year
and abletts decapitation of tomkins head.'"
Depends how you look at it:
Follow your troll view and you get the above. A more balanced view may result in the following:
Nick Scrutons careless/unintentional spear tackle.
Lee Smith kicking out in the tackle attempting to re gain his feet.
Keith senior...see above.
Carl Abletts shoulder charge on Tomkins (Obviously didnt decapitate him did he..if he had his head would have come off...it didnt..if was back playing in the next phase of play).
HTH
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Honestly cant remember them, but if they were as bad as the Bailey one then we couldnt have complained.'"
As bad as the Bailey one? What planet are you living on?
A raised knee is a raised knee. That is all Bailey did on Friday, nothing more. On that basis the precedent for a raised knee is a caution, bearing in mind two players from just the one club have already received that this season.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Honestly cant remember them, but if they were as bad as the Bailey one then we couldnt have complained.'"
Q: When is a raised knee not a raised knee?
A: When it is committed by Ryan Bailey or against a Wigan player, it then becomes attempted murder.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Depends how you look at it:
Follow your troll view and you get the above. A more balanced view may result in the following:
Nick Scrutons careless/unintentional spear tackle.
Lee Smith kicking out in the tackle attempting to re gain his feet.
Keith senior...see above.
Carl Abletts shoulder charge on Tomkins (Obviously didnt decapitate him did he..if he had his head would have come off...it didnt..if was back playing in the next phase of play).
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Well I know which way your looking at it, the biassed way. Get a grip mate, it wasnt a shoulder charge. It was a disgracefull effort that should result in a ban. Coley got sent off a few weeks back and got a 2 match ban, I had no arguments about that and completely agreeed, and that wasnt as bad as . So why dont you try the unbiassed approach. Maybe Tomkins should stay down longer next time and milk it abit longer rather than toughing it out, would that make you happy.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Q: When is a raised knee not a raised knee?
A: When it is committed by Ryan Bailey or against a Wigan player, it then becomes attempted murder.
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What the hell are you going on about, i havent defended the Wigan players for doing it. All I said was I dont remember them. All im saying is that if the Wigan players were as bad as Baileys they should get the same punishment. If he gets off I wont complain, if thats what has happened before.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Honestly cant remember them, but if they were as bad as the Bailey one then we couldnt have complained.'"
[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=1557[/url
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| Quote ="Gotcha"As bad as the Bailey one? What planet are you living on?
A raised knee is a raised knee. That is all Bailey did on Friday, nothing more. On that basis the precedent for a raised knee is a caution, bearing in mind two players from just the one club have already received that this season.'"
Are you really that stupid? Calm down for 2 seconds and point out where I said Bailey should be banned? All ive said is that if Bailey gets a ban, then I agree that the Wigan players should got on aswell and that we couldnt have complained if they had. All we want is some consistency. Im sorry if i worded it badly but I havent said Bailey should get banned, tbh i dont think he should.
Some of you are bloody touchy on this site
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| Quote ="Tony Soprano"[urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=1557[/url'"
Then you would expect the same for Bailey.
and here it is [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=2143[/url
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| I'm only interested to see how many games brother Joel gets for his unwarranted intervention that could have caused a mass brawl, just as we saw last Thursday at the Shay in similar circumstances.
If anything brother Joel did Leeds a favour on the night by creating a distraction and one which allowed his younger brother to demonstrate just how badly shook up he was (by the Ablett challenge) by attempting to join in.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"What the hell are you going on about, i havent defended the Wigan players for doing it. All I said was I dont remember them. All im saying is that if the Wigan players were as bad as Baileys they should get the same punishment. If he gets off I wont complain, if thats what has happened before.
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Calm down love your slip is showing. Presenting an alternative view to the hysterical initial view thats all. My personal view on that one is that it was put on report and wil be dealt with by the disciplinary panel. Ablett will recieve whatever punishment they decide is correct and thats that.
As for your bleating on about Baileys raised knee being worse than pube heads and glass jaws..how so? a raised knee is a raised knee..think you need to sit in a dark room with no internet access for a few hours, your taking all this quite badly.
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| Quote ="Hacked Off"Calm down love your slip is showing. Presenting an alternative view to the hysterical initial view thats all. My personal view on that one is that it was put on report and wil be dealt with by the disciplinary panel. Ablett will recieve whatever punishment they decide is correct and thats that.
As for your bleating on about Baileys raised knee being worse than pube heads and glass jaws..how so? a raised knee is a raised knee..think you need to sit in a dark room with no internet access for a few hours, your taking all this quite badly.'"
I havent said it was worse you really need to read before you post. I probably worded it badly for some of you simple folk, but it was in response to someone saying that us Wigan fans should want Fielden banned for the same offence. All i said is that if they were as bad then yes they should have.
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| Quote ="Bondi_Warrior"Honestly cant remember them, but if they were as bad as the Bailey one then we couldnt have complained.'"
Your text here implies that the raised knee committed by Bailey was somehow worse than the other two.
Or: If the raised knee commited by O'loughlin and Fielden were as bad as the one committed by Bailey those two would have been rightly banned and you wouldnt have complained. However as they were not as bad as the one committed by Bailey they recieved a warning only. As Baileys was worse he should be banned.
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| Anyhow No charge for Bailey. Kind of renders this mini discussion pointless. Ta Ta
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'm only interested to see how many games brother Joel gets for his unwarranted intervention that could have caused a mass brawl, just as we saw last Thursday at the Shay in similar circumstances.
If anything brother Joel did Leeds a favour on the night by creating a distraction and one which allowed his younger brother to demonstrate just how badly shook up he was (by the Ablett challenge) by attempting to join in.'"
If anything kicked off, the mass brawl would have been a direct result of Ablett's forearm to the face. Joel Tomkins and the others who got involved may have been in the wrong but anybody who tries to justify what hapened to Sam using this are taking the wrong attitude towards our sport.
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| Quote ="MDW12"If anything kicked off, the mass brawl would have been a direct result of Ablett's forearm to the face. Joel Tomkins and the others who got involved may have been in the wrong but anybody who tries to justify what hapened to Sam using this are taking the wrong attitude towards our sport.'"
Read it again properly. He is not trying to justify what happenned to Sammy wammy. He merely expresses wonder at what will happen to the other tomkins brat for steaming in from distance with the potential to spark off a mass brawl.
Nothing I suspect.
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