IF Zak has done something wrong, and we all know what we're referring to there. IF he has, he still won't get the sack. Not a chance in hell. Way too talented.

IF he is involved in this alleged incident, I think you might be wrong there. I actually think any action would be mutual aswell.

He was affected by that second incident last season against Saints, and seriously questioned giving the game up, and then whether he should just move to Australia. Therefore if there is another incident, and IF involved his own making, I think there would be a change. I did wonder why his agreed 5 year deal hadn't been announced yet, and wonder if there is some doubts.

Funny though, as I actually messaged Gary Hetherington only a few weeks back and told him that I don't think the club are doing a good thing by encouraging some of these players to live together, and that it could prove bad news for a couple of players. I cited the same situation previously with Bailey and Delaney. Gary didn't agree, but I still think the club are not helping, not all players have the same attitudes, way of living, and life goals.

"I did wonder why his agreed 5 year deal hadn't been announced yet, and wonder if there is some doubts." Maybe one was never signed in the first place? The only place I ever heard of it was you saying it on here.

Does Gary really think the club can tell the players what their living arrangements should be? Why do you think the club have any influence or input on a player's choice of housemate? Bizarre.

At the end of the day players of Zak's age are grown men and need to sort themselves out. My boss has no input or responsibility over my personal choices.

Besides, the Burgess brothers lived together and because they're not wooden tops they did OK.

Who does Zak share a house with Gotcha?
And FWIW I think we could see the last of Zak IF rumours this time are correct.

I never implied in any way at all that the club had told players their living arrangements. I used the word "encouraged". There is a big difference. But something I personally don't think they should have done. I know the reasons for it, especially with Hardaker, but I still don't see the benefit.

I think it's more than rumours. I think we've seen the last of 2 Players in a Leeds Shirt. One is a massive loss and the other .........meh.

You'd hope these lads would be professional enough and "Grown-up enough" to behave in a civilised manner.

Well, whom ever it is I think being sacked from their job is the least of their worries. I'd be investing in some soap on a rope if I were them.

Also, if the people involved had aspirations of playing sport in Aus then they're probably up in smoke too.

We stood by Walker and Bailey in a similar situation (not saying whether we were right or wrong to, but we did). Has anything changed since then?

There's a lot of conjecture going on around here, we're firstly assuming that it is those two (and having seen the photo I'm pretty convinced by at least one of them), secondly we're assuming that no-one in the West Yorkshire police force has recognised and then contacted one of the most high profile people in Leeds to discuss the issue, then we assume that if it is indeed them then they've actually done something - being wanted in connection is not the same as being accused - and then it seems that everyone is assuming that if they did do that thing it was both of them and it was unprovoked.

I'm not saying that none of the above is possible, but I think to take it as read that this is what went down seems a little premature.

IF it is whom some are suggesting then it'll be their 3rd or 4th indiscretion in 18 months though...

It's nice to know I'm living rent free inside your head, especially as there's so much empty space in there.

That apparently part of the deal was that the club promised to make him captain after Sinfield retired should ring alarm bells as to the genuine nature of that rumour.

And was why the club encouraged him to move in with others, in order to start making that transition, which is why I said above I am not convinced the club have got it right.

Oh don't worry, I took that huge pile of ..... .with a huge pinch of salt.

Where do you get this stuff from?

Do you believe yourself?

Stop been an idiot Gareth.

Stop making stuff up.

You just say stuff as if it's gospel and expect us to believe you when your credibility is, frankly, not that high.

Now you're corresponding with Hetherington (you sure it was him?) about who should be whose room mate. We used to have a poster called Walter Mitty on here. You sure you're not the real Walter?

*Being

Looking at Hardaker's Twitter feed he's not been that prolific as usual on it in recent days.

Interesting.

Maybe he's fallen out with social media in light of the recent news about GCHQ monitoring everyone's emails and social media posts?

More likely they were hopeful some teammates could keep an eye on him. I can't see why moving him in with teammates would be viewed as prepping him for captaincy.

GH wouldn't make that promise. We'll probably have a new coach by the time Sinfield retires and what if he comes in and says he wants Ward or Ablett or whomever as his captain? Is Hetherington seriously going to turn around and say "sorry it's got to be Zak, I promised it to him over 2 years and made him live with teammates to prep him"

Just had a quick look myself. Not sure about whether or not the club are advising him on who he lives with, but they could certainly provide him with some basic English and grammar lessons. Very 'proffesional'...

Bit harsh IMO. You'd be left with egg on your face were Gotcha to post his email from GH on here. That's assuming it doesn't contain confidential info, of course.

I could fake you an Email from anyone you want

I reckon I could tell if I was been taken for a ride.