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| Quote ="rollin thunder"no disrespect to Fev but if he cannot get a game there, then he is simply not good enough. But think you may be overestimating the talent in Fev squad.'"
The fact he might not play much at Fev, if at all, is no reflection on McCallum. Ridyard is likely to be Fev's captain and is arguably the best half back in the Championship. The Boas brothers are both longstanding international players who played very well in the last World Cup.
Moreover, it's one thing for, say, a wing or middle to come in on DR, quite another for a half back, let alone an 18yo with little or no first-grade experience, to come in and run a team when he doesn't know the calls etc.
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| Quote ="aky"Don't want any of your regects'"
Excuse me please could explain what that means ? is it a new derogatory term for Whinos ?
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"The fact he might not play much at Fev, if at all, is no reflection on McCallum. Ridyard is likely to be Fev's captain and is arguably the best half back in the Championship. The Boas brothers are both longstanding international players who played very well in the last World Cup.
Moreover, it's one thing for, say, a wing or middle to come in on DR, quite another for a half back, let alone an 18yo with little or no first-grade experience, to come in and run a team when he doesn't know the calls etc.'"
They will not be sending him to fev to not play or be sat on the bench, like i saud if ge cant or deemed not goid enough to play at Fev we might aswell not bother with him, if he goes to Fev he will be playing. Ridyard may be captain may be a goid championship player, but thats all he ever has been and ever likly to be.
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| McClelland will be on loan to someone we know that much, if he's not at Fev anyway.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"They will not be sending him to fev to not play or be sat on the bench, like i saud if ge cant or deemed not goid enough to play at Fev we might aswell not bother with him, if he goes to Fev he will be playing. Ridyard may be captain may be a goid championship player, but thats all he ever has been and ever likly to be.'"
You seem to be suggesting that players are "sent" to Fev, rather than being offered. That's never the impression I've got of the relationship, and indeed, Fev fans were told that we had turned down a number of offers of players on DR from Leeds last season. I think that's partly why the DR relationship has worked so well (a point Rovers officals have made repeatedly).
That said, with the recently-reported news that Duffy seems set to leave Fev for Leigh, it remains to be seen whether Ridyard will still be at the club.
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| Quote ="Bang"McClelland will be on loan to someone we know that much, if he's not at Fev anyway.'"
Perhaps he could go and join Lilley at the Bulls?
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"You seem to be suggesting that players are "sent" to Fev, rather than being offered. That's never the impression I've got of the relationship, and indeed, Fev fans were told that we had turned down a number of offers of players on DR from Leeds last season. I think that's partly why the DR relationship has worked so well (a point Rovers officals have made repeatedly).
That said, with the recently-reported news that Duffy seems set to leave Fev for Leigh, it remains to be seen whether Ridyard will still be at the club.'"
OK sent/offered, we shall use your definition, if he is offered to Fev he will not be going there to be not in the side. Of course we are all assuming he will be sent on loan, he may start off with 5-6 games in academy to get his RL skill back up before going anywhere, he may bypass dual reg all together and go straight into first team squad, we simply do not know how good he is yet. Yes he has not played open age pro RL but has played open age Scottish pro union.
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| Quote ="ant1"Perhaps he could go and join Lilley at the Bulls?'"
Our two main halfbacks have just signed fulltime deals so I don't think we need him. Bringing in loan players can disrupt a squad so no thanks this time. We'll keep Lilley I reckon when his deal runs out.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"You seem to be suggesting that players are "sent" to Fev, rather than being offered. That's never the impression I've got of the relationship, and indeed, Fev fans were told that we had turned down a number of offers of players on DR from Leeds last season. I think that's partly why the DR relationship has worked so well (a point Rovers officals have made repeatedly).
That said, with the recently-reported news that Duffy seems set to leave Fev for Leigh, it remains to be seen whether Ridyard will still be at the club.'"
Agreed, it seems to have worked pretty well for both sides, I think because there at least appears to be a bit of give and take from both sides.
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| Quote ="Him"Agreed, it seems to have worked pretty well for both sides, I think because there at least appears to be a bit of give and take from both sides.'"
Particularly when it came to the 8s split and one on the partners struggled to put out 17 players.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"Particularly when it came to the 8s split and one on the partners struggled to put out 17 players.'"
I know and the other partner was awash with fit players and not trying to avoid relegation.
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| Lolohea can play 1 or 6. At present you'd say the most likely is for him to start at 6 with Walker at fullback. However, I have some doubts about a Myler-Lolohea combination being able to control games (no doubt they will show flashes of brilliance but not sure they have much game management between them).
Given the fact that McClelland will be on wages far higher than anyone with his complete lack of experience in first grade, the club clearly has huge wraps on him and expect him to force his way into the team sooner rather than later. I've no doubt he might start on DR, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if he ends the season as our starting 6. Mind you, he could be another Richard Gunn as well.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Lolohea can play 1 or 6. At present you'd say the most likely is for him to start at 6 with Walker at fullback. However, I have some doubts about a Myler-Lolohea combination being able to control games (no doubt they will show flashes of brilliance but not sure they have much game management between them).
Given the fact that McClelland will be on wages far higher than anyone with his complete lack of experience in first grade, the club clearly has huge wraps on him and expect him to force his way into the team sooner rather than later. I've no doubt he might start on DR, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if he ends the season as our starting 6. Mind you, he could be another Richard Gunn as well.'"
I wouldn’t mind a Lolohea/McClelland 6 and 7 in another year or so. Myler has done well since joining us but he’s a player I’ve never got enthusiastic about personally. He has a nice passing game but doesn’t offer enough overall for mine. We need to be sticking players in their preferred positions and letting them develop. We’ve f’d around with lots of second rowers at prop, Sutcliffe at ?, Moon at 6. I never thought Burrow was a hooker in a million years and it frustrated me we didn’t play him at 7 all the time (he should have played far bigger minutes for Leeds in his career latterly). Even now, is our interest in Merrin or Taupau as big back rowers or as cart horses? For me a balanced team is a successful one and for too long we’ve been winging it. A balanced unit with different and complementary threats will usually beat a side of talented individuals IMO. We haven’t been near good enough in the pack for years, the links haven’t been working and the good back line we’ve had therefore hasn’t had much chance to shine.
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| Interesting how Myler was brought in to the side as some sort of saviour and that Lilley was deemed not good enough.
What is the main difference between the two when it comes to the following:
passing in broken play.
passing from dummy half.
short kicking game
long kicking game
taking the line on
putting players in to space
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and finally pace.
Fwiw I see little difference in the two but then again I`m no expert.
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| I never understood signing Myler, felt like a desperation/ need some one type of signing.
We have needed an organising HB since Sinfield left, still don't have that three years later
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| Myler seemed to be going well at the start of the year but agree with those that suggest he just doesn't offer quite enough for me. Particularly in big games. As early as the Cas game at Elland Road he dropped his chips in front of the posts when we were on the hunt to get back level. Obviously, there were far bigger issues than Myler last year but always strikes me as a player that scores a hat-trick when you when 52-16 but rarely comes up with a match winning play.
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| To pick Myler out after the complete turd show we served up last year is bizzarre start with an ageing weak pack a non existent 6 and a Coach with no idea before even getting to Myler.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"To pick Myler out after the complete turd show we served up last year is bizzarre start with an ageing weak pack a non existent 6 and a Coach with no idea before even getting to Myler.'"
totally agree, lets judge Myler when we have winning competing side.
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| I'm not saying Myler is a bad player or that he's to blame for last season.
I am saying he's the wrong type of HB we needed
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"I'm not saying Myler is a bad player or that he's to blame for last season.
I am saying he's the wrong type of HB we needed'"
not sure i would agree with that, as above looked good early season and was getting praise from others, i remember John wells saying is Myler finally at the right club at the right time, then the wheels fell off.
Not having an half back partner was /is the problem, Sutcliffe is useless, moon wanted to go home from about March and disappeared rest of season, and no other options only Lilley who was shipped out to Bradford. Plus the worst softest leeds Pack since about 1987
Myler sent the last 3 years of his career trying to guide awful sides around the park, still reserve judgement on Myler with an attack minded coach and better side around him.
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| Yet again, I didn't say Furner or new set up won't improve him.
What I've said is *When* we signed him we needed an organiser more than we needed what Myler was offering at the time.
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| When we signed myler we actually needed two HB's as moon was never up to the job.
Only signing one put myler is the position of trying to do his job, carry moon and play behind an aging pack.
I agree that he wasn't all we needed when he came.
I think he did a decent job overall though and with a proper Hb to play with and a bit more dominance from the pack and he will show up to be a decent player.
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| I agree with that Tbh
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"not sure i would agree with that, as above looked good early season and was getting praise from others, i remember John wells saying is Myler finally at the right club at the right time, then the wheels fell off.
Not having an half back partner was /is the problem, Sutcliffe is useless, moon wanted to go home from about March and disappeared rest of season, and no other options only Lilley who was shipped out to Bradford. Plus the worst softest leeds Pack since about 1987
Myler sent the last 3 years of his career trying to guide awful sides around the park, still reserve judgement on Myler with an attack minded coach and better side around him.'"
That’s fine but I was watching him closely for England at the weekend; nice passing game, very committed in defence given his size limitations, big effort - but kicking game total pants and not the running game to cause concern in good opposition.
He’s solid enough. Then again I always thought he was overrated at Warrington. The side does have worse problems to deal with - my original point was just that I wouldn’t mind someone else nudging past him to partner Lolohea (if we can get him match fit..).
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