Agree. Reckon Somewhere a Neville will be polishing boots and buying some new thermal reg grundy's for a Yorkshire winter

Spent years loving this game, and could watch matches one afte the other, but after last few years, and especially last year seriously fallen out with it. Had it not been for the kids and spending the time with my Dad, I would not have got a season ticket again for this coming year. And this will be my 35th year as a season ticket holder.

I do however get a lot of free corporate for down at Cas, and enjoy the experience a lot, probably because of the set up, and the style of rugby they play over last couple of years. They certainly don't take for granted their fanbase, which Leeds certainly does, and why wouldn't it considering the difference in numbers. With friends at Warrington and Huddersfield too, I can't deny I take advantage of free days for those too.

I do really enjoy the Junior rugby though, and going through the age groups with my son, having previously been invoived before his birth, hasn't changed my opinion on that level. There is plenty of excellent juniors coming through the system. The Super League club system is where the game has a problem, and where my appetite has decreased.

I feel the same mate. Not just me but my whole family, RL nuts, all feel similar and the enthusiasm has been waning for a good few years now so not just isolated to this poor year for Leeds.

I look forward to the international programme more these days, although my love for Leeds will never cease, i feel SL has major issues ahead regards quality and excitement.

Quite comical this "you can't have a negative view on here because you get attackef" claims coming from two posters who call other posters who see positives in the club "gulliable" or a "sheeple" or something else along those lines repeatedly.

I used to post on here "back in the day" every now and again, but, purely in my opinion, and as an "outsider" looking in, there is a sense that should you post something to someone's dislike you are jumped all over and criticised straight away. It's not debated, you are just told you are simply wrong and there is nowhere to go with the discussion from there.

With regards RL I do feel I find I'm slowly moving away from Super League. I don't have a season ticket so do pick and choose games but I used to love my Friday nights finishing work with Super League to look forward to whether it be at Headingley, or at home on Sky. I don't get that feeling for Super League anymore, I don't get excited by watching the RL that's played, and there certainly doesn't seem to be the intensity in the game that there once was. To be honest I get far more excited watching my local club Thornhill Trojans in the National Conference than I do watching anything relating to Super League.

I don't hate Segeyaro. Let's not forget he was a big reason for Leeds staying up and topping the Middle 8s.

While I hoped he would want to stay, I never really believed he would until he signed the new contract with the NRL clause removed.

The events since he has returned to Australia have obviously been disappointing. While it is likely he's genuinely happier in Oz, I suspect his agent has played a huge role in stoking these feelings of homesickness, so both parties can receive more money in the NRL. He's clearly been told to sit tight and say the right things in the media while the inevitability of the situation is dealt with by the respective parties.

I can't comment much on GH's handling of all this without further detail. I hope he was not heavy handed, although it looks like Segeyaro and his agent had drawn a clear line in the sand...

Professional players are surely aware of the implications of signing contracts, especially one in mid-career like Segeyaro. For me this underlines a lack of responsibility and professionalism in the player. While I'm disappointed that GH seems to have removed a back door for him to come back to Leeds, as good as he is, Segeyaro's recent actions suggest he doesn't possess the attitude and leadership qualities Leeds need right now for such a key role model in the team. A not-fully committed Segeyaro could have been quite poisonous to any recovery the team hopes to make in 2017.

Perhaps a solid player can be found to replace him still. Falloon looked decent at times but he also seemed defensively weak on occasion. A solid hooker to be spelled with Burrow coming off the bench could still work out well. I've still a degree of optimism that some regulars will come back into form (e.g. Watkins, Cuthbertson, Moon) and that some of the younger players will take a big step up (e.g Ward, Sutcliffe, Golding, and Lilley). There are never any guarantees in sport! It promises to be an interesting season for Leeds, that's for sure.

& you were doing so well up to this point.
Stand by for all the criticism & name calling you've now brought down on yourself.
Sheeple anyone?

Absolutely hate on Segeyaro.

He came over here, well paid and played some games.

He said he enjoyed it and that he'd like to stay and signed an extension. His Twitter feed was packed with chilling at coffee shops and with players. When Moon went to the Shadwell dad's night out, Segeyaro went with him, and Galloway.

He did not sit in every night watching telly.

Kids and fans idolised him and bought his shirt.

All of a sudden he goes home and cannot be bothered to see out the contract he signed less than a months ago?

Its appalling behaviour.


There a YouTube video of how he was taken in by a family and made to feel at home when he was younger.

Is that, albeit over 3 months, how we treat him when Penrith ditched him?

just get rid and move on. he's replaceable

Pretty much this. His agent has let him down big time IMO. Crazy to sign a 2 year deal, I'm sure if he asked for 1 year only then GH wouldn't turn him down in our circumstances. The threat of not playing for 12 months if Leeds hold his registration is bad, but 2 years out in the wilderness is massive.

I don't hate any sports personalities as I don't and never will know them enough to hate.

So I can say without emotion getting involved that segeyaro (and sandow and hopefully solomona) should be made to sit out the remainder of his contract unpaid and off the wage bill. He should not be forced back to Leeds, he is not a slave after all but he was happy to sign the contract and take the money so now he has renegaded on that there should be some comeuppance.

The reality of course is that won't happen. We will accept a low ball offer and he will be gone.

Dont hate the player hate the game.

Yep.

It could be much, much more vicious on here but a lot of people were arguing with their mates. The mods had their hands full on many occasions. I've not seen whole threads and actual posters disappear like they did 7/8 years ago. The biggest difference is that we have no "enemies" anymore to distract us. Bradford fans no longer come on here looking for a bit of verbal. We had a running war with Stains fans for years, usually resulting in an October slap down of epic proportions.
But that's gone. Now threads are derailed by people that clearly deeply dislike each other.

If somebody said to you "come work for me, you will be nearer your friends and family, the weather is better, the job is better and i will pay you 3 times the salary but you cant work your notice period in your current job i need you to start work tomorrow." How many would decline the offer???

This situation with Segeyaro was always going to arise from the moment he was announced a Leeds player last season. He is too good a player to not be wanted by any NRL team in need of a 9.

Im shocked at how poor GH and McD handled the situation as i have previously said. Speaking so publically and with such anger was unneccassary all Leeds had to say was he isnt due back until Jan 3rd. I think they have created a bit of a mess now. If no deal can be done with an NRL team weve made it harder for Segeyaro to return.

^ yep

Problem is Segeyaro didn't have to go public to the Aussie press. If he went to the club privately, said sorry to mess things up for you but I really want this opportunity that's come up and they could discuss it then he arguably would've stood a better chance of getting a release.

Once he made it a public thing I can't see how GH & McDermott can take the lets not say much route because all that would happen then is fans complaining that they aren't being told what's happening and that the silence from Leeds is deafening.

As for anger well it depends how you want to read GH's comments with regards to tone. McDermott's comments that you could hear sounded more like a guy who was disappointed rather than anger.

All fair points Printer but to me Segeyaro is contracted to Leeds and isnt due to return until Jan 3rd. Therefore all Leeds had to say was he is due back on Jan 3rd. There is no breach of contract, no integrity issue and no need to say anything publically until Jan 3rd when he does or doesnt turn up.

Ive not actually read Segeyaro say he is not coming back just that he doesnt want to and it will be hard for him. Now obviously what hes said privately we are not privvy to.

Personally i didnt see need for McD's press conference at all or GHs comments at this time.

In what way does that relate to a RL contract only signed a few weeks previously when no NRL offer was forthcoming??
How GH/Mc.D reacted is no surprise for one this is a "Marquee" attraction of a signing & for the other more importantly the Team he was a genuine quality signing & a crucial part of the Team going forward after a dire year.
Now whilst i agree the situation which has arisen is of no surprise the reaction is exactly what was expected aswell.

That first paragraph was how the club reacted initially BEFORE JS went to the Aussie press the rest is a reaction to that interview.

The main headline to come out of McDermotts interview was that they expect him back January the 3rd and the first reactions on here were to call him delusional.

It relates to an employment contract which is what a contract is. Whilst to us supporters its a dream job to these guys its work and a career with plenty that dont enjoy it like we dont enjoy our job.

My point was its easy to criticise players for wanting to break a contract but in the same position we would do the same. Until Jan 3rd Segeyaro hasnt breached hos contract so at this point i cant understand Leeds' stance.

I agree Matty thgat is my understanding.
Whilst we know it is unlikely he will return on the 3rd Jan he still has a contract and might just turn up.
Why we then cancel his contract before the 3rd surely means we have broken the contract and he can walk away for free.
Maybe what we should have done is make plans behind the scenes to get a replacement i.e plan B and stayed with the message of "we expect him back and we are dissapointed to hear he is unhappy to return"
Yes of course we don`t want anyone who doesn`t want to play for us but then that`s not a reason to cancel his contract.
Let him do that.

It isn't just a straight forward employment contract though & breaking it has far more reaching consequences in terms of sponsorship/merchandise income as well as the disruption it causes to Team a contract he happily signed when no-one else was interested.
JS has publically stated his intent to stay in Australia so he is in effect in breach of his contract accirding to the Club im sure they'd know.

TBF we don't know yet if we've cancelled his contract. Nothing official about it from either side yet.