|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Dick Jones"Oh I hope we pull off as big a shock as in 71
Cocky lot
No team beats every other team in their league and is rubbish as you are implying
Show some respect'"
Grow up, and get that chip of your shoulder. I have not said anyone is rubbish. You are doing a good job in the championship. I said there was a massive difference between super league and below.
How many times have their being massive scores between bottom dweller teams in super league and championship teams? that is all you need to look at.
Most Leigh fans themselves have said they would be happy to be within 30 tonight.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1215 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Think this is a dangerous game for Leeds. We are in poor form, the performances in the last 2 games have been shocking.
I think we will win, but it will be a tight contest. Interesting to see how Brierley goes, I'm sure Gawy will be keeping tabs on him.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 22898 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2023 | Mar 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Yes you've beat themselves in super league with. 30 so I would be happy not to conced more then 30
Think we will come out flying and let's see what happens
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 761 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2021 | May 2021 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I was at Wembley in 1971 when Leigh certainly surprised us ! can't remember many of the Leigh team from that day. I'm sure the Leythers will remind me . Obviously Murph,Jimmy Fiddler,who I watched at Bramley, Geoff Clarkson,Kev Ashcroft
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="FGB"Think this is a dangerous game for Leeds.'"
There It goes again. What is dangerous about it FFS? We are not playing Wigan, Warrington, Castleford, that would be dangerous. Leeds got the draw they wanted, finally got luck in the draw. Had we got the others, but for Keighley, then you start to be cautious.
I am sure Leeds would love to play Leigh at home everyday of the week. If they are not disposing of any championship team, especially at home, by 35-40 points plus then they will have had a dissappointing day at the office.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 3185 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2018 | May 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="marathonman"I was at Wembley in 1971 when Leigh certainly surprised us ! can't remember many of the Leigh team from that day. I'm sure the Leythers will remind me . Obviously Murph,Jimmy Fiddler,who I watched at Bramley, Geoff Clarkson,Kev Ashcroft'"
David Eckersley, Stuart Ferguson, Stan Dorrington, Mick Collins, Joe Walsh, Tony Barrow, Alex Murphy, Derek Watts, Kevin Ashcroft, Jim Fiddler, Paul Grimes, Geoff Clarkson, Peter Smethurst, Les Chisnall, Roy Lester.
Hope tonight's team can pull off a bigger shock than these guys did. Unfortunately can't see it happening.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1215 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Gotcha"There It goes again. What is dangerous about it FFS? We are not playing Wigan, Warrington, Castleford, that would be dangerous. Leeds got the draw they wanted, finally got luck in the draw. Had we got the others, but for Keighley, then you start to be cautious.
I am sure Leeds would love to play Leigh at home everyday of the week. If they are not disposing of any championship team, especially at home, by 35-40 points plus then they will have had a dissappointing day at the office.'"
Just the attitude McDermott will be hoping the players avoid. Well done.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="FGB"Just the attitude McDermott will be hoping the players avoid. Well done.'"
I ask again, what is dangerous about it?
It is no good keep telling us it is, unless you have something to back it up.
The evidence would suggest completely the opposite to your pessimistic view. Indeed just looking at the bookies, and Leigh have a 38 point start on the handicap. I bet there has never been a surprise result with an handicap that big. Goes along with what my post said, not above a 35-40 winning margin for Leeds is not a good night.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 28186 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2003 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Best of luck to Josh Walters, but his selection has all the hallmarks of a sop to the dual-code arrangement.
Can't see how he's ahead of the likes of Minchella or England in terms of being at first team standards.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| BJB and McGuire drop out then.
Poor that missing an opportunity for much needed rest on some.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Best of luck to Josh Walters, but his selection has all the hallmarks of a sop to the dual-code arrangement.
Can't see how he's ahead of the likes of Minchella or England in terms of being at first team standards.'"
Agreed, but hope it turns out better than the last coach pet project, who also got ahead of others without the talent to back it up. Good luck to the lad.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5813 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Mar 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Gotcha"I ask again, what is dangerous about it?
It is no good keep telling us it is, unless you have something to back it up.
The evidence would suggest completely the opposite to your pessimistic view. Indeed just looking at the bookies, and Leigh have a 38 point start on the handicap. I bet there has never been a surprise result with an handicap that big. Goes along with what my post said, not above a 35-40 winning margin for Leeds is not a good night.'"
Potentially a sloppy attitude of we only need to turn up to win. Don't think we would lose even then because the heads will come out of arris pretty quick, but I suppose that's the danger taking opposition too lightly. After the last result we need a good performance to start to build some confidence again.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 5813 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2010 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Mar 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Best of luck to Josh Walters, but his selection has all the hallmarks of a sop to the dual-code arrangement.
Can't see how he's ahead of the likes of Minchella or England in terms of being at first team standards.'"
Initially agree re can't see being ahead of michella, have liked the look of him when he has played.
That said on a very poor performance not been impressed with Leeds at all but have been fairly impressed with Walters good leg drive in tackle thought he went well
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 1215 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2025 | Jan 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Bang on the money again I see Gotcha.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 66 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2014 | 11 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2015 | Apr 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Individually some good performances JP, stevie, Delaney, Walters, and hardaker but as a unit collectively we are still some way off. Credit to Leigh they were very good though and look a potential SL side.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 10530 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Nov 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jun 2020 | Jun 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| If last week was bad, then that was absolutely terrible.
Fair play to Leigh but Leeds looked lost with the ball at the moment, and without Ablett in the back row there's no real link between the forwards and the backs. Delaney for all the graft has become a roadblock for our own attack as much as the opposition's, he simply doesn't pass the ball, he's excellent at attracting defenders so if he could just improve his handling he could be a real important weapon in our attack on the right, the same way Ablett is on the left.
Stevie Ward, and Clarkson showed up well I thought, and Robbie Ward looked a threat when given more licence to run out of DH. Walters was solid, but it's difficult to see what he brings to the party our other young back rowers don't.
Of the senior players only JP turned up the rest were poor.
Hopefully we've got our bad performances out of the system now, because without a massive improvement, we could be in for a hiding next week.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 17230 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Dec 2024 | Nov 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Complete waste of £20. I said I wasn't bothered about challenge cup and should have stuck with it. That was really poor.
I said before hand we should have put more youngsters in. We would have done much better. All credit Leigh, who put their bodies in the line, and worked incredibly hard. But some of those Leeds players were really poor. How bad does Sinfield need to get to have a rest? The props for me, other than Peacocks last 10 mins were poor.
Thought Stevie Ward was excellent and Don't know why went off. Clarkson looked very good. Hardaker showed moments of class.
Thought Briscoe looked well out, and should have been one rested. Watkins and Moon poor,. And agree with the above that Delaney made lots of ground, but so predictable in that they know he won't pass.
Not resting some of those will come back to haunt us. But credit Leigh again.
Forgot to add, Sutcliffe also gave it a good go. Although I still don't see any creativity for others.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 3813 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Mar 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Leigh deserve all the credit from that. Though not sure being part-time is that much of an disadvantage seeing as we seem to do f*ck all all week on the training field.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16170 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Gotcha"I ask again, what is dangerous about it?
'"
Indeed!
I'd say Leeds were lucky to get that win. But for the Leigh error in those last 10 minutes your team may well have been out of the cup, and to a Championship side.
All credit goes to Leigh for putting up an incredible performance. There will be a player in that team who will be kicking himself for a while I think!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2570 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2024 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| We have nothing to offer at half back.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 15864 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Oct 2023 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Thought Delaney made a couple of passes tonight and was surprised.
Thought Clarkson was decent, Ward went okay. Only hardaker and Sutcliffe in the backs emerged with any credit
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 15309 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jun 2002 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2020 | Apr 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"We have nothing to offer at half back.'"
whats happened to "sir kev"?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 4239 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jul 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="meast"whats happened to "sir kev"?'"
He's still Sir Kev. He's given us over 15 years and captained us to 6 titles.
He just doesn't offer very much at halfback sometimes, like the guy said.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8893 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="The Eagle"Thought Delaney made a couple of passes tonight and was surprised.
Thought Clarkson was decent, Ward went okay. Only hardaker and Sutcliffe in the backs emerged with any credit'"
Thought Sutcliffe was awful. He was the direct cause of several of the obstruction penalties by hanging on to the ball too long. His pass timing was poor. Looking like a one trick pony with the step. Needs to watch how McGuire pushes the ball around. There is potential but he'll have up his decision making speed and cut out the mistakes.
I think we got a glimpse of the world without Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield (his performance tonight with ball in hand was also non existent and his kicking game was erm.."novel"icon_wink.gif.
Delaney took the Leigh bait and forgot he can let go of the ball as well as catch it and seemed intent on playing like a Bishop - only moving diagonally.
Stevie Ward was the pick of the team the first half, defended with huge enthusiasm and look every dangerous running at holes not at the Leigh beef. It was strange, we opened them up early with the little inside pop and the way Leigh defended that could have worked all night. At the least it would have held the Leigh defence and stopped them all drifting wide and taking up all the space for our backs. But we didn't do it for the rest of the match. There was far too much c**k measuring up the middle.
In a way it was entertaining, a walkover would not have been as watchable. Leigh gave it everything and made very few mistakes - maybe Leeds were waiting for them to implode but they didn't and we gave them every encouragement to stick to their game plan.
Don't want to bang on about the obvious but a penalty for obstruction should actually be for obstructing someone. It's farcical, Sutcliffe scored - there was nobody obstructed. Bailey was in front of the ball doing nothing yards away from the running line of Sutcliffe. Most of the other penalties against both team were rediculous. I don't actually remember seeing any defender actually obstructed from making a tackle etc. it's not good enough to say "all teams know what is going to be penalised", it is actually stopping the game being played. Some serious common sense is needed here - a penalty for obstruction should mean a player was definitely physically obstructed and that obstruction meant the attacking side gained an advantage.
My other whinge is the bull***t rulings on playing at the ball when it's kicked at you from 6 inches. WTF are you supposed to do. Watkins had the ball hoofed at his legs from a foot away in the first half and apparently that was "played at" - the subsequent tackle reset was what gave Leigh the position to win the penalty that led to their first try. Leigh were also on the receiving end of some of these calls. Why did they decide turning your back when the ball is smashed in your direction is playing at the ball? What the hell was wrong with the laws the way they were? You can't even put pressure on a kicker anymore incase the ball hits you. Nuts.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8893 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2006 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Gotcha"
I said before hand we should have put more youngsters in. We would have done much better. '"
We would have lost.
|
|
|
|
|