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| It's only one game but he made a massive improvement to the whole team
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| Quote ="Teddy Picker"Thought this at the game. Why bring in a player who has caused problems wherever he's been at the expense of a player who seems to get his head down and work hard.
Just what we need at hooker, good distribution, worked hard in defense, and got himself a try. Top effort playing the full 80.
Would love to see him start with Burrow as the impact player off the bench when he's back fit.'"
I could'nt have put that into words better myself fantastic debut, Danny Mags had a field day with good quick ball and the rest of the team benefitted as a result.
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| No coincidence that a much-improved defensive performance came when we play a hooker who can defend as a forward.
His acting-half distribution was excellent as well.
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| I've said this on the other thread but that was the best performance by a Leeds 9 since Bedsy went home.
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| It was a great debut but just to put a different spin on it he had plenty to work with in terms of options and willing runners in a team that were all at it for the full 80 minutes.
In contrast Mcshane has had a fair bit of stick when the a lot of the team have been off colour on the back foot or in the ST's game completely sh##.
I'm pleased for Lunt and think he offers plenty to us at 9 but lets not get too giddy when the whole team were good tonight in fairness.
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| The whole team were good tonite but alot of that came from quick dummy half play, thats something that we have missed all season.
Catalans have a very good pack that were made to look very ordinary tonite. I actually felt sorry for the legend that is Steve Menzies, he had a nightmare of a game.
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| Quote ="Rastrick Rhino"The whole team were good tonite but alot of that came from quick dummy half play, thats something that we have missed all season.
Catalans have a very good pack that were made to look very ordinary tonite. I actually felt sorry for the legend that is Steve Menzies, he had a nightmare of a game.'"
Totally agree. Lunt showed what we have been missing playing inexperienced hookers. His decisiveness and accuracy fom dummy half was really impressive tonight. If this is a sign of things to come I'm glad the Giants signed Scott Moore.
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| Quote ="Rastrick Rhino"I've said this on the other thread but that was the best performance by a Leeds 9 since Bedsy went home.'"
That's not saying an awfull lot.
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| More or less perfect debut.
Only had a few sessions with the boys, shows how tight knit the team is, for all parties to blend like that.
A poachers hookers score, and met by a grinning, toothless bailey when touched down, what more can he want?
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| Outstanding debut from Lunt which showed McShane fans that you do not need to have a lot of game time in order to show your class.
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| Twice I caught my breath as at a glance when he was on the other side of the pitch I thought for a second it was Bedsy! Similar physique and running style - great debut! If McShane couldn't learn enough from Bedsy I don't think he has the capacity to improve further.
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| It was interesting watching Shaun play for you last night, he played well and is the style of hooker that suits Leeds playmakers. It shouldn't be a surprise he played well, he has played hooker for England. He is a much better player at this point in his career than McShane or Hood (though I do think Hood is a terrific prospect) and an interchange of Lunt and Burrow could be very good.
So why have Giants let him go? In my opinion it is more about cap management than preferring Scott Moore. Luke Robinson is Giants run on Hooker, with Faiumu and Lunt that was 3 international hookers, plus Tommy Lee. Lee was playing interchange as he can also cover the halves and Kevin Brown's role as a half at loose forward (very much Sinfield's old role at Leeds). Tommy Lee is now injured and out for a while, Scott Moore can cover that role and by all accounts has come cheap due to his past indiscretions. That allows Giants to tie up Fairbank & Eden longer term.
Without a salary cap Giants would not let Lunt go (not complaining as without a cap we could not match the spending of Leeds, Wigan etc.). I am sad to see him go, but there is a long term logic, the recent growth of the Giants is founded on sound long term decisions.
Shaun Lunt needs to play and he needs to play in a top team. Leeds need a finished article, rather than promising, run on hooker, so the deal suits all parties in different ways, good business for all.
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| Quote ="GiantDee"It was interesting watching Shaun play for you last night, he played well and is the style of hooker that suits Leeds playmakers. It shouldn't be a surprise he played well, he has played hooker for England. He is a much better player at this point in his career than McShane or Hood (though I do think Hood is a terrific prospect) and an interchange of Lunt and Burrow could be very good.
So why have Giants let him go? In my opinion it is more about cap management than preferring Scott Moore. Luke Robinson is Giants run on Hooker, with Faiumu and Lunt that was 3 international hookers, plus Tommy Lee. Lee was playing interchange as he can also cover the halves and Kevin Brown's role as a half at loose forward (very much Sinfield's old role at Leeds). Tommy Lee is now injured and out for a while, Scott Moore can cover that role and by all accounts has come cheap due to his past indiscretions. That allows Giants to tie up Fairbank & Eden longer term.
Without a salary cap Giants would not let Lunt go (not complaining as without a cap we could not match the spending of Leeds, Wigan etc.). I am sad to see him go, but there is a long term logic, the recent growth of the Giants is founded on sound long term decisions.
Shaun Lunt needs to play and he needs to play in a top team. Leeds need a finished article, rather than promising, run on hooker, so the deal suits all parties in different ways, good business for all.'"
Good analysis and logic
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| Quote ="GiantDee"It was interesting watching Shaun play for you last night, he played well and is the style of hooker that suits Leeds playmakers. It shouldn't be a surprise he played well, he has played hooker for England. He is a much better player at this point in his career than McShane or Hood (though I do think Hood is a terrific prospect) and an interchange of Lunt and Burrow could be very good.
So why have Giants let him go? In my opinion it is more about cap management than preferring Scott Moore. Luke Robinson is Giants run on Hooker, with Faiumu and Lunt that was 3 international hookers, plus Tommy Lee. Lee was playing interchange as he can also cover the halves and Kevin Brown's role as a half at loose forward (very much Sinfield's old role at Leeds). Tommy Lee is now injured and out for a while, Scott Moore can cover that role and by all accounts has come cheap due to his past indiscretions. That allows Giants to tie up Fairbank & Eden longer term.
Without a salary cap Giants would not let Lunt go (not complaining as without a cap we could not match the spending of Leeds, Wigan etc.). I am sad to see him go, but there is a long term logic, the recent growth of the Giants is founded on sound long term decisions.
Shaun Lunt needs to play and he needs to play in a top team. Leeds need a finished article, rather than promising, run on hooker, so the deal suits all parties in different ways, good business for all.'"
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| No its not,NB wanted SM in because he thinks he brings more to the Giants than SL did, its nothing to do with the salary cap SL is still a Giants player there for will still be on there cap.
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| The genius of the Leeds CEO knows no bounds. Not only has he immeasurably strenthened a weak position for the club but he's also - allegedly - getting Huddersfield to foot the bill.
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| SL left because he wanted to play in Aus and thus fell out of favour with the coaching staff. Changes in his personal life have meant he would now like to stay in England, don't be surprised to see Lunt sign on a permanent deal.
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| Quote ="Teddy Picker"...Just what we need at hooker, good distribution, worked hard in defense, and got himself a try. Top effort playing the full 80.'"
Agreed, good debut and doesn't need to move out to the centres in defence.
Quote ="Teddy Picker"Would love to see him start with Burrow as the impact player off the bench when he's back fit.'"
Now we have a spcialist hooker, I'd much prefer to see Burrow [ustart at 7[/u with McGuire at 6.
Burrow can still bother a tiring defence even when he's been on since the kick-off, there's no need to save him until the second half.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"
Now we have a spcialist hooker, I'd much prefer to see Burrow [ustart at 7[/u with McGuire at 6.
Burrow can still bother a tiring defence even when he's been on since the kick-off, there's no need to save him until the second half.'"
That would mean moving Sinfield back to loose which I can't see happening. Doubt he would be able to oust our current incumbent
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| Huaraki should be back soon now surely, will be interesting to see if he gets a look in.
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"Huaraki should be back soon now surely, will be interesting to see if he gets a look in.'"
Think some of our forwards will need rotating a bit soon. McDermott said both Hauraki and JJB were longer term injuries though.
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| I have to be real honest here! I had totally forgot we had Hauraki
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"I have to be real honest here! I had totally forgot we had Hauraki'"
Is that because he is useless
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| Quote ="BOYD2"No its not,NB wanted SM in because he thinks he brings more to the Giants than SL did, its nothing to do with the salary cap SL is still a Giants player there for will still be on there cap.'"
Thats not correct. I would be very surprised if Leeds are not paying his salary. If that is the case then the players salary is exempt from the Giants cap and placed onto Leeds' cap
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| Quote ="BOYD2"No its not,NB wanted SM in because he thinks he brings more to the Giants than SL did, its nothing to do with the salary cap SL is still a Giants player there for will still be on there cap.'"
[i"Giants Managing Director Richard Thewlis also explained that other squad changes would now be made"[/i
[i“The cap situation means that some alterations to the squad will be made with Scotty coming on board,” he said. “Shaun Lunt has been looking for guaranteed game time which we can all see has been limited this year here for him so he will be permitted to move on loan as is his desire[/i
Mmmmm, who do I believe, you or your clubs MD
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