I'm sorry but that is just ballacks. Please list the NRL wingers playing each week, and you will see exactly what I am saying.

Nobody said anything about a star. Are you trying to suggest that every player in the NRL is a "star". All that was said is that he would get into an NRL side and play on the wing each week. Although personally I still think they would push him into the backrow due to seeing his potential there.



I thought we were talking wingers? what have centres got to do with it? I don't think anyone will argue with you on that score.

When i look through the entire NRL sides playing rosta's and with the quality of centres around at each club, i reckon you could remove any winger and from any club and Hall would fit in easily into any of these sides and would score plenty of tries too!

I'm not saying that he is a better player at present than the one he would replace, but given the quality service he would receive from his exquisite centre partner, would IMO enable Hall to finish with plenty of tries and thus deemed a success

Im not sure what else people are expecting Hall to do. Yeah he's no steamroller like Vatuvia, similarly he is no out and out speedster like Uate, What he is, is a big, strong, fairly fast lad who knows his way to the line, he has decent hands, safe under the bomb (You have to beat him in the air to win it), is good under pressure and he has a fantastic work rate.

Hall compares very well with a player like Chris Hicks who had a long fairly successful NRL career and has returned to the NRL.

Would he go over there and immediately be a 'star' winger like Nightingale, Vatuvie or Morris? no probably not. Would he go over there and be a first team player? certainly. Would he be one of the better wingers in the league? in my opinion yes. Could he improve to be a 'star' winger? in my opinion maybe

Gotcha - you reckon he'd 'walk' into any NRL side. THAT is bollax. You are seriously underestimating the quality of wingers here if you think that's the case. Just because a lot of them may not be household names doesn't mean they're not good players.

I'm not saying Hall wouldn't get a game, but he wouldn't 'walk' into any NRL side at the moment (not the Broncos for example). With a bit of NRL experience he'd become a better player and almost certainly a regular NRL player. But he is MILES behind the real star Australian wingers - and the problem is that generally they do have such players available. Yow Yeh, Boyd (even though a fullback as he's behind Slater), Morris (and his brother), Hayne (on the wing as he's behind Slater), Tuqiri are all far better wingers than Hall. So yes, the fact that Hall may be the best of British says a shedload about why we struggle to contain Australia out wide, let alone pose a threat.

If you then look at the best British centres and compare to the best Australians, the gap is embarrassing. Hall and Briscoe at least are close enough in ability to hopefully contain their opposites. I can't see any British player capable of holding the likes of Inglis or Gasnier in the centres.

BTW McNamara ought to try to convince Jack Reed to change his mind and opt for England. The guy is nowhere near Origin standard (barring injuries to 3 or 4 Queensland centres) but he's a solid player and an actual centre who at least wouldn't be caught out by simple plays and would hit hard in defence.

That's just silly, you have been brainwashed mate.

I asked you to list the ones playing each week and you list 4, two of which are fullbacks. Yet there is 30 wingers playing every week in the NRL, but you don't think he is as good as them.

What about players like, Blake Ferguson, Reece Robinson, Matthew Wright, Jordan Adams, etc? Seriously are you still sticking to the same line?

Any winger, and I repeat any winger could look great outside a Justin Hodges or a Greg Inglis, but how good would that same winger be outside a Michael Platt, or Vince Mellars?

In what way is Hall perfectly suited to the NRL?

And how would you know anyhow, considering you've gone on record as saying you don't watch the NRL?

He can play rugby league to a very high standard. They do play rugby league in the NRL don't they?

I've seen many players from the NRL ply their trade over here. If they can get a game down there, Hall can, easily.

Do you think Hall couldn't get a game? In which case, what are Manly interested in him for, cutting the grass?

Which high standard is that?
Since when did SL standards equate to [ivery high standards[/i?



They do play rugby league, and to a much higher standard than in SL. I thought it best to offer that comparison given that you don't watch any NRL.



If Scott Donald can get selected on a regular basis for 2 seasons out of 8 in the NRL, then anything is possible.



Tansey and Mathers did so I think he'd get a game in the NRL occasionally when there are injuries to better players. Assuming he does end up at Manly, I suspect he'd spend more time playing for the Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles in the QLD Cup. That's much closer to his level.

Which is still far higher than you ever achieved jeffrey, shame you realised you could not cut it at the age of 9.

Personal insults...always a good resort for a losing argument

Poking your nose in always a good way to get called a nosey fecker

its not really a personal insult its more a statement of truth

Really hall is a good winger for Leeds and one of the better wingers in the league. I am sure he could become a first team winger in the NRL.

I think some people hold the NRL in far too high regard. Not every player in every team in the NRL are world beaters.

He probably isn't world class as that phrase is banded about too much but I am glad he plays for us and is better player than some give him credit for

Does World Class mean at that time, or over a period? Depending on how you see this the qualification can be miles apart. If it's at that time, then depending on the overall quality of players, you can be pretty average in historical terms, yet sensational at that point in time.

Hall is a good winger now, maybe the best in SL, he would probably get a gig with most (not all) teams in the NRL. He is not Eric Grothe or Billy Boston, which I suppose shows the overall level of quality now compared with different periods of the game in the past.

You were on the right lines the first time on this thread.

You need to quit kow-towing to the chest-thumping opinion of the resident twig-snapper who has gone on record acknowledging he has no interest in the NRL and doesn't watch it. His opinions on Ryan Hall's NRL suitability are therefore worthless.

I only caught the last 20 minutes of commentary on the radio last night but reading between the lines (take note Ryan Hall... that's what they are there for!) it was a dreadful game punctuated by Sinfield's sensationally inventive pass to an opposition player for a Harlequins try.

Sorry Gotcha, you're allowed to raise O'Davis (a fullback) and Tahu (primarily a centre) as examples of poorer 'wingers' than Hall (IMO in fact Tahu at his best was a far more potent threat than Hall on the wing) but I'm not allowed to mention Hayne and Boyd, both of whom are quite possible opponents for Hall for Australia (and play there in Origin) because they play fullback for their clubs? Bizarre.

As it stands today, the most likely wingers for Australia are Yow Yeh and Boyd, with Hayne and Morris next in line (unless Slater gets injured and Boyd/Hayne move to fullback). Oddly Hayne hasn't been picked by NSW even though at his best he's clearly the best WINGER available (also better than Queensland's).

I'd be more than happy if England could pick two 'wingers' who were world class on the wing even though they play elsewhere for their clubs - not least because it would suggest we had a surplus of quality players elsewhere - which we don't.

I like Hall, I want him to do great things for Leeds - and he already has done a lot. If he went to the NRL he'd do well. But I simply can't see him being a star player.

Guffaw. Well informed as usual.

Think he would be massive down under. Super winger.

Really hope this is just rumours and has no truth. Hall is a brilliant academy product for us and we need people like him to stay.

Agreed.

There's ample choice of multinational fast food chains down under.

No Burger King is there. Jack's chased them out of town. Plenty of Nandos though and god knows, everyone loves Nandos.

Lucky boy.

I was always told it's how you use it that counts

there speaks a man with a little willie

I might just have the leathal combination of the two!

I might be like Ryan hall posessing both size and skill