Im as far from that crowd as you could get, but Martin has probably been our player of the year, and Hardaker has been outstanding.

The level of discussion on Facebook rarely gets above the moronic. Not getting why Dwyer is being released tells you everything you need to know.

FB must be a very different place to here. I don't know how you can watch RL for years and not understand the importance of good service from dummy half.

Dwyer has cleaned up his distribution a fair bit since being dropped, but he still lapses and I suspect always will under pressure. He will also occasionally win games from the bench, as he's clearly a real threat when running.

Under Agar that combination meant him getting more and more game time. Under Smith he's been usurped by someone who had never played hooker but can pass and has a rugby brain. I think its fairly clear who better understands the way a good team works.....

Very well said OWL.

Between the two of Houghton and Dwyer they have 1 decent hooker combined, Houghton can pass and Dwyer can run. Hull won’t be anything better than a mid table club with them though, Houghton has been the most overated player at Hull throughout his career, he can pass but that’s where his attacking attributes end.

I think you are being a bit harsh on Houghton. He did win m.o.s and at the time was one of the best no 9's in SL. To be fair Ellis should have won it.

In the last few years his performances have slipped due to being flogged for 80 minutes. I wouldn't have given him another contract but he had the option in his favour to carry on.

Lovodua was signed as a hooker but has hardly played there due to mystifying selection decisions by Hodgson and our usual injury problems.

The big hope is Balmforth. Very highly regarded but having 3 hookers ahead of him his game time may be limited.

I think Martin did OK, didn't he have a family bereavement/ ek home earlier in the season ? Or was that last season ?.
Since RS came in Martin has been great for us.

Zak,Sutcliffe and Dwyer are deffo the Farcebook darlings

There's a lot to be said for disengaging from Facebook entirely. It's a toxic mess generally and even the stuff like discussing Rugby League is just a load of ill informed, incoherent nonsense. A lot of it is sub-Gledhill stuff.

I think people on here are in the main more hard core fans who've gone to games for a number of years so understand the game better. Dwyer is the greatest player ever to play for Leeds if you read all the FB comments... my mate loves him, he's gutted. Mind you he's thick as so explains it....

thought Dwyer was poor v Wire when he came on, his passing was awful and ran like a headless chicken. He's done well at times but it's the right move at the right time for Leeds.

He will be at Saints the year after

I’m surprised Dwyer starting tonight. Go’s against the theory that RD thinks he can’t control…… very interesting

That’s a let off, Briscoe on and instantly look more vulnerable to kicks.

His vision won the game for you at the end.

Typical Dwyer game, misses a few tackles, some poor decision making kills forward momentum, and the match winning play. Just another dog game.

He was the best of our 3 hookers tonight , Leeming would have given half a dozen 6 agains with most other refs

I think it was Austin’s run that made it. He went the wrong way in typical Dwyer fashion and got lucky.

Was a great one handed pick up from Austin.

He has got lucky a lot of times then

I don’t think we should keep Dwyer, however i actually think Dwyer is a better player than Leeming!
O’Connor is coming on nicely , but I do think a Danny Levi type would escalate us in big games………
We won’t get away with some of the poor skills and shocking decisions from 9 against Saints or Wigan……

If we can get on the front foot Leeming is a vastly superior player to Dwyer. The game at Wire where we put 40 on them was a brilliant all-round display of attacking rugby from Leeming. He's not as good when things are a struggle, and its when a game descends into a real wrestle Dwyer has some plus points.

The problem with Dwyer is so often we descend into the wrestle because of the rubbish he chucks out from dummy half. Then he becomes virtually the sole threat. Its a vicious cycle where Dwyer tends to look at his best - scoring winning tries etc - when the team is at its worst.

Would that be Wigan who we stuffed recently?

I agree with this, but I must say that Leeming was absolutely shocking last night. Let's hope he's shaken off his ring rust. What a great decision from Smith to take Leeming off with three or four minutes left and throw Dywer back into the fray. Won us the game.

Leeming was terrible last night, defensively, offensively and discipline, but its his first game for ages and he was in great form before his injury so cant knock him too much, but my god, he was poor.

Dwyers having a great swansong to his Leeds career, its not pretty, but he's doing his part in our run to the playoffs, ideal situation for us, rightfully letting him go, but getting contributions from him in the meantime.

Leeming was bound to be incredibly rusty, he needed a good stint to get him sharp for the playoffs... he was on fire before he got injured. He is easily the best 9 at the club.

almost big mik my player of year