what like this borderline slanderous statment....





I dont recall the victim of Mary Satontheloo's tackle being such a bad sport.....

I found this on the Saints board.


The cynical side of me half agrees with that.

Whereas, we don't use Jammer for tampons. I think you'll find that has something to do with the fact that we're in Lancashire and you're in Yarkshire. Dialects and all that.

so if sinfield plays this week he was just faking about his face injury?

That was judged as an [iattempted[/i chicken wing, which no doubt resulted in no damage being done.

A long white pale soft stem with a large red tip.... usefull about once a month.

Maybe the name fits....




psst he has been dropped for his poor behaviour and the press release is just convenient PR

I am not sure tvoc's comment was funny, I think it was a genuine hope. It is always difficult to drop any player but one as talented as Graham undoubtley is, would be very hard BUT you must think that Potter has to do something about his behaviour and can't just let it pass?

I would have been happy for Graham not to have shaken JJB's (and maybe a couple of others) hand at the end of the game but ignoring the whole side is really, really low. As tvoc has said, this is not footie or netball for that matter!

Except in Leuluai's case it is a genuine action and one he never fails to offer when penalised for a high shot. He also pleaded guilty to the charge at the disciplinary. True sportsmanship from a true sportsman.



A good sportsman would accept a genuine apology. It shows bad judgement and/or a lack of sportsmanship on Graham's part to refuse to accept it but it's hardly a surprise now is it.

I don't think Graham was wise in what he did but I don't consider what he did as being something that needed any action.

Who mentioned faking injury?????????
I said i doubted he was missing the dragons game just because of the "jjb tackle" and that the damage to his shoulder will of been enhanced from him playing on!!
Add to that i also think if it was the play-offs this week he'd be playing and the statement released by saints is propaganda because jjb only got 1 match and appealed.

Kylie apologised there and then, I am not sure it was remorse as such but an acknowledgement that he was wrong. I do agree that Graham might not want to accept the apology at the time but to behave like that at the end of the game is really a sign of poor character IMO. Kylie pleaded guilty to the offence as well... and that his totally his call according to Bluey and the clubs own internal 'code'.

I am not sure Bluey has or needs to do that... Mr Graham is making a great job of that all on his own!

Well, you're a Leeds fan so I would expect you to unconditionally accept that Leuluai was genuine. I'm not a Leeds fan and so I am as skeptical about his apology as many on here are about the authenticity of Graham's injury.


I'd agree that Graham's judgement was probably not the best on Friday generally but I wouldn't change him for anything as the same fire that causes him to act authentically - ie not put on a show for the sake of 'sportsmanship' - also causes him to be a standout player. I am happy to take the deal where Jammer is concerned.

As for sportsmanship ... if Leeds fans really believed in it, they wouldn't be on here defending JJB's tackle, which fans of most other teams appear to be seeing quite clearly as a chicken wing and therefore wrong as it is a potential career ending tackle which was entirely unnecessary. However, I see little in the way of criticism for JJB's actions, plenty in trying to blame Graham for it instead, so I can hardly take seriously the descriptions on here of what it means to be sportsmanlike.

A true sportsman would have admitted to his wrongdoing, when it is inescapable that he did do what he did (for all to see on Sky), which JJB is not doing, and true sportspeople generally would say fair enough to him being punished for the same.

Relevence?

Bluey was wise enough in the RL press this week only to refer to Graham's 'bad sportsmanship'. He refused to be drawn on anything further. That shows IMO that Bluey does indeed know it is a dodgy route to travel to start pulling apart someone professionally in print.

I don't care about Leeds own code. That's your code, not ours. Whatever our code is, is what is relevant to our players. It isn't Bluey's job to comment upon our players just as it isn't Potter's job to comment on yours.

It is somethong that totally and without question warrants action by the club (but not by anyone else at this stage) IMO.

Keith, irrespective of the disiplinary panel, will get an internal fine by the club and I bet you he has had a good talking to by Bluey about loosing his rag.

I hope Mr Potter does at least sit Mr Graham down and tells him if he behaves like that again, no matter about the circumstances, he will find himself taking a rest for a game or two.

you might need to provide a link to those I cant recall any indeed some have condemned it and agreed with the punishment and to his credit IIRC JJB has pleaded guilty did he not ??????


But that doesnt seem to fit with your definition of sportmanship.

It could be argued thats already happend this week.....

Er no, he didn't. He's appealing. You don't even read stuff about your own players!

well potter had no problem commenting on keefs!! Saying in his post match that "before senior stated practising his boxing"!! If thats not mixing it for the media and the disiplinery I don't know what is!!

Player gets injured playing rugby shocker, IMO the forearm by Meli on Donald was far more dangerous, just that some Saints fans don't see bad tackles by their own players.

Are you for real



he has indeed "lodged" an appeal presumably against the ban not the judgement

he has already pleaded guilty.

The fact that he as lodged an appeal may be a technicality (there will be a time limit / deadline) and it doesnt follow that an appeal will actually take place

HTH

And how is saying that Senior was practising his boxing a problem? Wasn't Senior a boxer? Did he not throw a couple of punches for all the RL viewing public to see?

Anyone else tired of all this bickering?

Graham spat his dummy out because he couldnt take been bossed by a Leeds pack. Is there really much else to discuss without going over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again about it?

How do you know?

I have only seen reference to Senior and Leuluai pleading guilty, not JJB.

Why did you go over your version of it again, then?