Lilley couldn't get a look in at Leigh on loan. He and Myler like a few have said probably wouldn't fit as a combination.

I like the lad and think he could actually have a SL future later on when he's 27/28+ but doesn't look like he's in the plans at the moment.

Never a truer word spoken in jest. If Myler had a decent partner the team would be so much more balanced and our attack would should fire like it needs to.

Having watched the game back it was interesting to see how offside O'loughlin was for the first attempted drop by Myler..never square in a month of sundays.

Pretty poor stuff by both teams.

Highlights were Myler, Parcell and Hall for Leeds with some good contributions in defence from Delaney and Ward. Tomkins and Isa for Wigan.

Not sure why Wigan seem to need to have niggle in every tackle, it so spoils the game. Leeds lost that in the last 10 by allowing Wigan so much room to run at them. We just failed to close them down.

PS: Jack Walker is so much better than Golding in attack and defense. The sooner he is back the better...and can we get back to using subs in a better way! old habits die hard with McDermott...

I was expecting the usual criticism of subs at HT when he only used 1, but TBF he did use his remaining subs in the 2nd half so harsh to criticise him on it this time. The more he introduced the bench more we slipped out of the game.

Why did Golding go for the short kick off when the match turned 8-8. Bad decision, with Wigan getting field advantage to get the one point. Needed the long kick off and try holding them down as far away from our sticks as possible. This probably cost us a point !!
The kick off after worked out for him but Myler missed the easier kick in the end.

Well, we've lost by a point at home to two of our likely rivals for top 4. Let's hope we don't have to win the reverse games for a place.

Watched it back and it just emphasised how poorly we managed the game after going 8 up, whether it came from mcdermott or on the field it was awful. Our total lack of ambition ball in hand didnt make them work in defence, leaving them full of energy for when they got the ball, added to the penaltys and stupid decisions, it was a pretty dismal last 15/20 mins.

Oh Dear!!!

I attended as a neutral last night. Regularly hearing the south stand chanting ***king hate Wigan.

Get your own house in order before you worry about anyone elses.

I thought the South Stand was particularly embarrassing last night. Hopefully when it's full again you won't be able to hear the braindeads.

southstand ? are you sure ? it was southstand ?

look mate I know all about the south sand ,but surely you've heard the universal chant ? ' WE ALL HATE LEEDS ' and much of the time there is that expletive included

Okay I wont paint you all with the same brush, Ill just say that any fan that throws things at players (especially during a game) are scum, as are any players who swear at and intimidate opposition fans, fair enough?

Maybe you are right, calling people scum is pathetic, btw what is it your fans were singing over and over again last night: 'We all hate Leeds ____'?

Like throwing things at player and songs are equivalent?!

I'll say it right here, I do ***king hate Wigan, and I'll sing about it if I want, just like any other fan can sing about hating Leeds (although you guys realise that most Leeds fans find the song 'We all hate Leeds scum' pretty funny given it is so old it is embarrassing)

It seems that you've got quite a lot of growing up to do.

If you can't deal with fan rivalry go watch badminton, I would have thought someone who has constantly criticised the south stand for certain chants would be against fans throwing things at players during a match, but apparently thats okay (as long as it is against Leeds of course)

I'll let other clubs deal with their morons. The south stand chavs I can see and hear every week.

You do realise that the exact same things are being levelled at your own fans/players, so are you saying Leeds are scum too? In fact you should listen to the Shaun Wane interview on Wigan TV about the treatment and abuse he received from Leeds fans after the game. Unlike yourself though he doesn't make a big deal about it and, rather, says it adds to the experience of playing there and why he likes the Leeds games.

As one of your own says: maybe you just have a lot of growing up still to do.

What I did definitely see is Wigan fans throwing things at Leeds players during a game, something that I have yet to see any Wigan fan admit is absolutely disgraceful. If there is no retrospective action either to the individuals or to the Wigan club, it sets a very dangerous precedent.

I did not see Leeds fans trowing things (feel free to prove me wrong), they were calling Wigan players divers and cheats at the end, but nothing worth writing home about, if any Leeds fans did throw things at players they should be banned for life from Headingly.

Fans shout things at opposition players all the time, its part of what makes the great tribal atmosphere you can get in RL games and I have no problem at all with Wigan fans shouting things at Leeds players, it is expected.

What is not expected is for players so shout things back or scream in fans faces. SO'L and Leuluai showed their sportsmanship and class by how they acted when being escorted to the dressing room, a few of your other players should try following their example.

EDIT: before you say it I know that plenty of Leeds players have intentionally wound up opposition fans in the past (essentially what Tomkins and Bateman were doing), this imo is unsportsmanlike but okay, what I saw from a couple of Wigan players was a lot more aggressive and in close proximity, it just stood out to me as classless and unprofessional behaviour

Go watch polo then, no peasants to offend your eyes there m'lord

Oh dear

Oh dear oh dear

Have to agree with leedsnsouths on this one. Supporting a sports team generally involves a lot of passion and emotion. Fans have always and will always sing songs and use exaggerated language that include emotive (hate, scum etc), strong and offensive words. I'm pretty sure nobody actually wants to get a gun and shoot anybody, it's just a song - it's all part of the theatre/pantomime.
Those that take such offense or who publicly criticise people for using this type of language at a sports event are either ultra snowflakes or more likely on a crusade to try and prove that they're somehow more intelligent/a better person than those involved. Either way, it's pretty pathetic.

In answer to your earlier post, yes, I am very sure it was the one third section of the south stand.

Highlighted words = zero expletives. Admittedly, any person that Hates another RL club has some personal issue.

South Stand chant, as pointed out in my earlier post included a very audible expletive.

The issue here is not what other clubs fans do, its the holier then thou attitude that SOME (not the majority) of Leeds fans have when a decent section of one stand is chanting offensive drivel in what is projected as a family game.

HTH

I suggest you seek some professional help.

Don't bother responding, you have made it blatantly clear you are not fundamentally decent enough to converse with.

A spur of the moment outburst is slightly different to organised chanting, would you not agree.

Its not about Snowflakery, its about setting an example to younger generations of fans. Are you happy that kids (under 12's) are exposed to this type of environment, with out challenge, to accept it as the norm?

I’m by no means suggesting that Lilley is some finished article SL player but given the choice of moon and Lilley I’d like to see him have a go as Moon is just a passenger there. He can certainly read the game better than moon who just kills space. Lilley also got injured at Leigh and returned to Leeds for treatment.