Possibly but i thought the players did'nt have to move and were static rather than runners who ended up in the defensive line.

If by consistent you mean always an average level of performance, then yes. If you mean quality, then he is a million miles behind Sinfield and Buderus on that score.




Hasn't the discussion about Burrow and where Leeds need to be in that position been going on for the last 18 months? Before Brough even went to the Galpharm. I think the only relevance here is because this is a thread about Brough, and people have compared.




I don't think that has come from Huddersfield fans. But certainly prior to that, that was indeed the sort of description fans would put on him. His attitude stank. But can't players learn, change, and grow up? It appears the case here at the moment with Brough.

I like Burrow for all the qualities I listed..... And would always try to place for him. Still not convinced he has the right attributes to be a scrum half....but as stated his size limits the options. Have suggested before maybe an impact hooker off the bench....but M c S hane would appear to have convincingly cemented that role now. Hood too waiting in the wings.

Burrow keeps his scrum half role by default only IMO.

I will watch the try again though.

Brough has imploded everywhere he has been. His Huddersfield career is still in it's infancy.

I remember a coach saying on the Super League show a couple of years ago that Danny Brough has a shelf life of about two seasons at a club before the wheels fall off.

That might be true .... And he might not be the right man to replace Burrow at Leeds ( that would be Chase )....BUT he is undoubtedly the best British born scrum half playing at the moment.

( Still having problems with your apostrophes I see

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I disagree, Burrow has been consistently good. OK, he's not won matches on his own like McGuire did last season but he has pulled the strings and scored some very good tries in the process.



The discussion has indeed gone on for that long, but I find it strange that he's coming in for stick now when his form is greatly improved on last season.



It was Huddersfield fans who were critical of the signing. They thought Brough would upset the Brown/Robinson partnership which was functioning very well at the time. Incidentally, it was also around the time of Brough's arrival that Huddersfield suffered a significant drop in form.

Ony some Giant fans. Others realised that Robbo is a 9 not a 7 and the Giants needed a quality kicking game.

The drop in form happened well after Brough joined us-at the time of Hodgson saying he was going to the Wolves AND Nathan Brown saying he was leaving. No blame on DB.

I am so glad you don't make the decisions! Burrow doesn't need replacing! And even if he did, I would hate to for it to be Chase! I would suggest that Brough and Burrow are the best srum halves in the competition at the moment let alone British born.

I don't want show pony's playing at Leeds. I want players that will put the work in for the full 80 minutes, rain or shine, winning or losing. Out of the three of Burrow, Brough and Chase, that only gives me one option.

If - and it's a big if - Leeds decided they wanted a change at scrum half there are only two running around in SL I'd be even remotely interested in as an upgrade to Burrow and that's Johnny Lomax (based as much on potential as anything) or Thomas Leuluai.

A team of work horses .... Sounds like a great side to watch.....am sure people will flock to see such an industrious team. : )

If you read carefully you will see I like Burrow's many fine attributes....but he's just not a scrum half.

Yes Actually, it does! A team that works hard together, more often than not wins together. Unlike you, some people don't just go to see some over the hill aussies that grace our club, some people go to watch and support their home town club trying their hardest to win.

As I said before, I'm glad you don't make the decisions. Burrow might never have got the chance to represented his country.

Hands off!

I bet! You need all the player's you've got at the moment! Realising what its like to be a Rhinos supporter of this and last season?

You're good with suppositions.....and .....err....not much else really.

Burrow looks to be in better form now. When he is he's a very dangerous player. He'd be a better halfback - IMO - if his first instinct was to pass and then look to run only if the pass isn't on. McGuire until last season did the same. With Sinfield in the side its an aspect of both our halfbacks' play which hasn't needed to be polished - and the same with general kicking game. When they're all fit and on form I wouldn't want to replace them with anybody, as they do work as a unit.

FWIW I've always liked Brough as a player, in part because he seems to be a cocky get. Maybe its just me, but the best British halfbacks I've seen have always seemed to have that edge of cockiness.

Bingo. That is the bottom line.

It's wrong.

Watch the try Burrow scored Friday. Look at his first instinct when he receives the ball. He looks left. Nobody within cooee before Senior walks into frame, completely dis-interested in making himself available.

He goes back right, looking for options but everyone is stood around having a mother's meeting. Nobody makes themselves available as a runner.

So, he takes on the line and scores a try very few players in this league are capable of scoring.

IMO, Burrow's first instinct is always to look to pass. That he is so willing to and effective at taking on the line is a real plus.

Under McDermott's coaching philosophies I can actually see Burrow flourishing.

Yet he has been selected to fulfil the role under numerous coaches at club and International level since c2002, coaches who have a lot better understanding of the game than you.

Of course ....you have to practically be a genius to understand the complexities of the game. All those wasted cold curers and large hadron collider workers....drawn by the greater intellectual demands of RL.

Considering Burrow's stature where else do you think he might figure, unless at scrum half ?

Not sure what you said above, but i am sure it was tripe as usual

Surprised you have not started a campaign to bring Watkins back early from injury at LC while Keith is injured!!!

i'm sure i saw brough chase down scott donald a couple of seasons ago so he must have some serious pace [ luckily scotty offloaded just as brough got there and we scored

broughs high kicks with the way he manages to get so much spin on them used to have me worried every time but i'm not convinced about his long kicking game

one other drawback is that a few wakey fans i know claim he's obnoxious off the field and that might not be good at international level, he's got a history of dissent too that might be a liability

Now there's an erudite idea

.....actually Delaney is - at last - looking to pass to his winger much more than usual and appears to be not quite such a bad option (for the moment).

Normally I would advocate Ablett over Delaney, as the least worst option of the two, at centre....but Ablett has now done enough to cement his position at LF (I have stated that [iis[/i his best position for a long time).

Leave him where he is now IMO......

...either bring in Wilson; or move Hall inside and bring in Chisholm (pace would certainly be the pertinent assett against Warrington)....OR drop Ali back to LC.

He pretty much plays down that channel anyway. It could also sustain his fitness for a longer period ...away from the debilitating 'engine room' !!

Incidentally you should not discriminate (against tripe in this case). Embrace it. Enjoy life