Seriously, WTF are you on about? Yes, I want Leeds to win but if they lose there is no point getting worked up over it. I enjoyed the game yesterday but was annoyed at the moaning s around me. Its sport FFS, there is more to life.

Quins were enjoyable to watch. They got thier tactics spot on and strangled us out of the game.

In fact the most displeasing part of the game for me was when Burrow scored! We didnt deserve it and it would have done us more good not to hae gone over.

You must have had the volumne turned down?

good point well made

As explained I thought that was aimed at Silverwood and on the Saints board quite a few thought it as towards Silverwood too.

I do wish some of the people on here would get over themselves with the 'I'm a lover of the game' stuff.
Newsflash! We all are, hence the fact that we watch Rugby League and discuss it at length on internet forums.
Harlequins were imaculately coached last night. They played a simple but hugely effective game. That isn't trying to be superior or denegrate their efforts, simple is, 90% of the time, best in our game. leave the over-complicated mire to the Rah Rahs. On almost evert PTB you could see their forwards in place and ready take the ball at speed. Result, consistent metres up the middle. In the later tackles, they looked to spread the ball, but only when the state of the game allowed. Their kicking was considered, ours a result of panic on so many occasions.
Our performance was dire in almost all respects. McGuire has become a 'luxury' we can't afford. If those who profess a love of the 'wider game' stopped to think, they'd know that he has been short-changing us in terms of 'tactical' play for some time. Yes, his fleet of foot antics once in a while can be impressive, but running down blind alleys and failing to appreciate how the rest of your team are set are not acceptable at this level, no matter how much you skip and jump around. He sells himself dummies at times!
Others have summarised our pack, doesn't need repeating. The players, by and large, are capable enough. We have no structure, form or plan. That means we need huge improvements away from match days.
I was delighted that Quins were applauded, they deserved it (Chad Randall has to have one of the best RL brains in SL). They had a superb travelling support (seemed like more than Wakey can manage!). I didn't boo but I won't get all holier than thou with those who did. So what if some of them only started watching when the Rhinos were successful? What are people suggesting? Supporter 'suffering apprenticeships' at Hunslet before you qualify or a place at Headingley? Success equals bigger crowds (story of professional sport) equals good squads and facilities etc etc.
Simple really.

No it isn't

I wouldnt call sarcastic applause as abuse either but, i paid my money to go the Bradford and Wigan game (pre-warrington) and i gave my time.

"think they have a right to show that they are not happy."

I think i have a right to show a wasnt happy

and afterall it showed it did the trick!

Makes all the points I would have liked to have made with intelligent considered profundity.
Coming up from Cheshire for the last two home games with all that expectation of getting my money's worth was somewhat obliterated. I didn't boo ( I was too shell shocked having seen such lethargy from our forwards apart from Buderus - Bailey is a particular waste of space ) ...but I would certainly hesitate to expend such money again unless the roots of the problem are resolved very very soon.
McGuire tried...but his ability to beat himself more often than the opposition is embarrassing.

Yes it is different. You think that booing a team OFF after they have put in a bad performance is not different to shouting abuse at ONE PLAYER BEFORE he has played the match?

BTW - it wasn't sarcastic applause. You know that and I know that.

Slightly off on a tangent. Would you have Toopi in the team at the moment if he was fit and well?

Not this team, no. Not me.

You see, our fekkwitts who slate a player like Harris and throw around the term "loyalty" really don't understand what it means.

I'll tell you what it means to me. It means to me that this group of players is the greatest collection in our clubs history. Before they came along, we'd been champions 4 times in over 100 years. These boys have brought us 3 championships in 5 years and I don't think they're quite done yet, despite some defeats in April.

This is our time in the sunshine. This is the greatest era in our clubs history. Legendary names like Lewis Jones, Arthur Clues, John Holmes and David Ward didn't do what these lads have done. This era won't last, of course it won't. But whilst these lads are in the shirt they'll get no boo-ing from me, even if they don't win another game for the next three years.

You see, I crave loyalty from the players, just like other fans. But the players deserve our loyalty too, especially players who have delivered what these lads have.

You idolize a loser on and off the pitch and abuse a winner like Toopi.

Excellent post. And it't nice to see that the majority are now start to see that we have a problem. Rather than just get all arrogant, and profess it's between us and Saints.

Thanks for confimring Leeds have thousands of glory hunting bandwagoners.

Should Huddersfield, Wakefield and Hull KR all win tomorrow (and it's not a given that they will) but if they do Leeds will fall to fifth for the first time since 2002 and that's about where I've seen them all season.

[uTranslation: [/uI Booed.

Just about sums it up.

Some of our fans are only used to a winning team and dont like it now we aren't all conquering. Totally agree with the loyalty point. Fans expect players to be loyal but how is booing showing loyalty.

Clear double standards.

Actually I didn't boo.

But I did give some choice cursing of my own, whilst mindfull that I had my kids with me.

And everybody paying into that game has a right to do that if they choose, or boo. Only a buffon with head up his own posteria would say and think otherwise.

I think even you will be fair to me here, and remember that I have continually stated all season so far, that I don't care about losing (and booing at a result is silly), but the level of performance is what matters. What we are getting now is a joke.

Every season at home, my party go through saying thats the worst team we have seen at HQ this season. In the past, like Leigh, Cas, etc. This season, been totally honest, we are the worst team I have seen.

Fair enough, I dont boo either. I clapped Quins performance, that's it.



You're right. They pay their money, they make their choice. Hardly showing loyalty though are they? A supporter is someone who supports their team through thick and thin, not booing them off after some disappointing defeats.

These are the same people who probably boo players who leave to earn more money elsewhere.

I think booing is disrespectful.



I'm not panicking just yet.

Not sure you're right to be honest. 'Support' is for a club normally resulting from your place of birth, very rarely for individuals, although we all have favourites and players we respect etc.
Many of those who booed will have been there long before we began to win and will still be there long after the current success has gone. Why people boo is a matter for them. Booing simply because you lose, not really much of a reason, booing because of a lack of application and/or effort from those you know are capable of better? Different perhaps?
I didn't boo last night, I don't think there was any need, but I won't get all precious about those that did.

Why becasue you say so therefore no one else can have an opinion?



again Sarcastic (we'll get to that in a moment) is different to abuse. And after a string of average performances and on the back of 2 very poor ones one in which he dropped the ball mid air diving for the line to score (which would have won us the game as a result we lost it after) of which i spent money and time which you say is a good enough reason to boo the team then yes i do think its fine. Oh and i have no doubt the booing last night was because of the past 2 weeks performances against Bulls and Salford.



Pre-match a player (Toopi) who had striggled to keep old of the ball or catch it was warming up catching the high ball to which 50% of Leeds fans cheered when it was caught (at which point 2 Leeds players we're laughing about).

so cheering when he caught the ball when the previous 2 games he couldnt manage it you dont think is sarcastic?



I'd have Kevin Iro, Richie Blackmore, Toni Caroll and Toopi in the team if i could but it cant happen.

Everyone knows it's a problem which is why teams keep attacking us down that side, every other coach knows it so either ours doesnt and is stupid and shouldnt be coaching or he does know and has told the sleeve whos deciding to spend on keeping the Tykes in the Premier League rather then invest in the Rhinos.

either way we have a problem!

You think McGuire is a stand off.

Opinion = NULL

They'll all be singing from a different hym sheet when we make history in october at old trafford.

eeerm..... on a Point of Order.

Danny does not have his head up his own posterior, it has been firmly wedged up Gareth's for years!

Which would indeed explain why he comes out with so much poop



Apart from that, an excellent post.

Not read the full thread so if this has already been said then sorry but…

You pays your money, you takes your choice. If some feel like they need to vocalise their displeasure then that’s their choice.

Personally I think the lads don’t deliberately go out there to play badly or purposely decide to give away cheap ball and defend like they have wax hands.

I would never boo the team that I’ve paid to watch, I respect what they do too much and IMO I think it shows disrespect.

i do!!

Am I missing something here or is this the ramblings of a mad man?