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| Point 2 sums it up perfectly - no need for any others.Celtic would have beaten us tonight on that showing.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"HH, all the 50/50 s went the bulls way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
abletts was stupid, but newton did the same after a break and wasn't even penalised'"
Thats what I said about the 50/50s
Ablett did it 20 metres out in a try scoring position. He deserved to go.
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"HH doesn't the fact that all the 50/50's went Bulls way means it is down to interpretation of the ref or video ref though? I am not saying they were wrong decisions, but too much of our game is down to interpretation.'"
Yes, thats what I said though. Our game is down to interpretations and all of them went against us today. Actually thinking back, IMO they were all spot on so not really 50/50s at all.
They need to sit them all down and go through the rule book point by point though.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Yes, thats what I said though. Our game is down to interpretations and all of them went against us today. Actually thinking back, IMO they were all spot on so not really 50/50s at all.
They need to sit them all down and go through the rule book point by point though.'"
talk about contradicting yourself
they were spot on(which is bollox) yet they need to sit them down and go through the rule book with them
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| Quote ="tad rhino"talk about contradicting yourself
they were spot on(which is bollox) yet they need to sit them down and go through the rule book with them'"
No, not at all. Explain to me which were called wrong and I will correct you
Also I wasnt contradicting myself, I agreed with Emma that there are a lot of interpretations in our game but looking at tonights game I believe that Smith/Alibert called them all correct.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"No, not at all. Explain to me which were called wrong and I will correct you
Also I wasnt contradicting myself, I agreed with Emma that there are a lot of interpretations in our game but looking at tonights game I believe that Smith/Alibert called them all correct.'"
talk about defending colleagues. smith has always been pish poor and tonight was no different. as for halibut he should feck off back to france because he is nowhere near good enough for this standard of reffing
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| Quote ="tad rhino"talk about defending colleagues. smith has always been pish poor and tonight was no different. as for halibut he should feck off back to france because he is nowhere near good enough for this standard of reffing'"
Controversy dominated the final stages of this West Yorkshire derby as video referee Thierry Alibert ruled out a match levelling try from Danny McGuire.
The French official had already angered Leeds supporters by chalking off an early effort by Rob Burrow in equally controversial circumstance.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"talk about defending colleagues. smith has always been pish poor and tonight was no different. as for halibut he should feck off back to france because he is nowhere near good enough for this standard of reffing'"
Not at all. I have said over and over again that Smith is not SL standard but I cant see what he did wrong tonight apart from award Leeds a try for a forward pass.
Worrincy's try wasnt forward and all the disallowed tries from us were the correct decisions.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"No, not at all. Explain to me which were called wrong and I will correct you
Also I wasnt contradicting myself, I agreed with Emma that there are a lot of interpretations in our game but looking at tonights game I believe that Smith/Alibert called them all correct.'"
and hereby lies the problem. you, like cummings, thinks they had a good game.
that speaks volumes in itself
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| Quote ="Dicko_09"Controversy dominated the final stages of this West Yorkshire derby as video referee Thierry Alibert ruled out a match levelling try from Danny McGuire.
The French official had already angered Leeds supporters by chalking off an early effort by Rob Burrow in equally controversial circumstance.'"
Why have you just quoted from the Leeds report, without a reference by the way??
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"Why have you just quoted from the Leeds report, without a reference by the way??'"
well HH said there was nothing wrong with the officials but yet the website thinks that they were contraversial
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and hereby lies the problem. you, like cummings, thinks they had a good game.
that speaks volumes in itself'"
What did they get wrong?
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| Quote ="Dicko_09"well HH said there was nothing wrong with the officials but yet the website thinks that they were contraversial'"
They were controversial, doesnt mean they were wrong my little frothmeister.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"They were controversial, doesnt mean they were wrong my little frothmeister.'"
but they could have been
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and hereby lies the problem. you, like cummings, thinks they had a good game.
that speaks volumes in itself'"
You are saying this but you have yet to tell me what they did wrong today even though I have asked you twice.
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| Quote ="Dicko_09"but they could have been'"
No, they werent.
HTH
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"You are saying this but you have yet to tell me what they did wrong today even though I have asked you twice.'"
the webb try. technically correct,however it happens every game and to pull it out of the hat from nowhere was a joke. i wait to see if it gets pulled on monday because it will happen in every game.
jjb was illegally taken out by newton.regardless of anything else newton went to block him getting to the kicker
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| Quote ="tad rhino"the webb try. technically correct,however it happens every game and to pull it out of the hat from nowhere was a joke. i wait to see if it gets pulled on monday because it will happen in every game. '"
There you go. I dont even need to tell you.
Quote ="tad rhino" jjb was illegally taken out by newton.regardless of anything else newton went to block him getting to the kicker'"
I can see the point you are trying to make but JJB went down like a tonne of bricks and would never have got near the kicker anyway
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| Quote ="EmmaMur01"1). Where were our forwards?? Nine times out of ten our backs were running the ball out with our forwards stood watching.
2). We were garbage.
3). Both tries in the first half were scored from a forward pass.
4). Ablett shouldn't have been sin binned for that. A penalty yes, not a sinbinning.
5). Our best players were Rob and Hall.
6). This one is from my brother but I agree with it. Rugby league will never be a top game in this country while so many decisions are down to interpretations. Webb had to be seen to be trying to get back on side. WTF?? Its like when players are jumping for the ball. If you are looking at the ball its ok but if you are not, you are not going for it???'"
1. Agree our pack were poor today. Thought the pick out of them were Kirke and Burgess.
2. We were but was that down to us? Or was it down to Bradford not letting us play? One to think about.
3. Both looked forward from one angle, but ok from another. No complaints with either.
4. Looking at the reply, the touchjudge, who was closest to the incident, put his flag up to indicate player in touch and Leeds scrum. Why then did Smith, who went to his touchjudge's for a lot during the game, ignore that call and penalise Ablett?
5. Agreed, although was happier with Buderus today. Better distribution and a hell of a lot of defensive work. Can't wait to see him fully fit and fully intergrated.
6. It's a good point. The fact is, a referee has way too much influence on every game of RL. If a ref wants you to lose, you'll lose.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"What did they get wrong?'"
The forward pass to Hall in the first half.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"I can see the point you are trying to make but JJB went down like a tonne of bricks and would never have got near the kicker anyway
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Irrelevant how JJB went down, that appeared a clear cut obstruction by Newton.
That apart I think the other calls (that went against Leeds) were correct.
On the Leeds performance:
Penalty count was 12 - 6 in Bradford's favour and probably rightly so.
If people really want to know why Leeds lost (rather than just blame the officials) it's quite straight forward, they are playing really poorly and have been pretty much all this season.
First half: 5 penalties, 5 knock ons, 1 forward pass
Second half: 7 penalties, 5 knock ons.
Considering the basic one out football with not even attempting an offload it's simply not good enough.
At least we shouldn't be hearing the 'look at the table' after tonight from those too blind or stupid to recognise the p[iis[/is poor football Leeds are serving up at the present time.
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| Halley was quality for Bulls and Jeffries' kicking game put Rhinos' to shame.
If Sykes could kick at goal it wouldn't have been anywhere near as close.
On the tries, they are decisions that you see given either way, tonight they went against Rhinos, another day they'll go in favour of Rhinos.
It's better to be playing poorly at this stage of the season than it is towards the business end.
Too much moaning and kneejerking on here by some posters IMO.
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| Quote ="Nemanja"Halley was quality for Bulls and Jeffries' kicking game put Rhinos' to shame.
If Sykes could kick at goal it wouldn't have been anywhere near as close.
On the tries, they are decisions that you see given either way, tonight they went against Rhinos, another day they'll go in favour of Rhinos.
It's better to be playing poorly at this stage of the season than it is towards the business end.
Too much moaning and kneejerking on here by some posters IMO.'"
How dare you come on here with your common sence and what not.
Go to bed.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"How dare you come on here with your common sence and what not.
Go to bed.'"
It must be the disease.
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| I've read someone say on here tonight that we'd have won the game had it not been on Sky. Cast your minds back to the game at Craven Park earlier in the season and the opposite probably would have applied regarding the disallowed Hull KR try.
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