But did you enjoy our singing? Bet you've never heard such a great rendition of "Twist and shout" as that. Even Richie Myler was joining in

Great atmosphere & enjoyed a few pints of Withens in your supporters Club.
Your ground is definately ready for SL.

Prepare for a certain poster to pick you up on this once the stats come out

regardless of whether it was effective or not. I agree with everything by the way, although I do think the danger created by Moon at centre is at a different level to his stand off role.

Dwyer can hold his head high today. He was one of the few Leeds players who actually looked a league above the opposition.
After watching the NRL play offs it’s clear some of our players aren’t fit enough and aren’t prepared to put their bodies on the line.

Definitely not, it was the most entertaining part of the day. Especially when Tyrer scored Brett Ferres couldn't stop laughing, then said something along the lines of clucking hell we're .

I’m sure last time I went when Fax were in SL the attendance was given at something like 8,000 and there was definitely not double of today’s crowd there!

Think we could be missing Singleton next week for shoulder charge followed by swinging arm and contact with the head.

We looked well on top for most of the first half but just couldn't convert chances into points, Halifax wouldn't roll over and deserved to go in all square on the scoreboard. The second half was better from a Leeds perspective but despite the 6 - 34 final score we bombed so many chances the worst of which was the Walters pass that never was. I feel for the guy, but he just isn't good enough. That was a sitter waiting to be scored, he had support and just didn't select the right option.

Lots to do in the off season, starting with a reality check and subsequent clear out.

Of those on show for Leeds today only 5 or maximum 6 should be with us in two years time. Walker, T Briscoe, Myler, Parcell, Singleton and Smith.

I know Dwyer had a good game, but realistically this is the level he shines at. If we are in big games his mistakes would become very exposed, and there are plenty of them.

what a bell.

How come Walters was played before Cameron Smith? Smith seemed to only be put on once Leeds had got a few points ahead.

Iv stopped trying to work out the reason walters plays before anybody, its certainly nothing to do with what he does on the pitch. One of the worst players iv ever seen in a Leeds shirt

There was a lot of glum faces in the crowd, I think he was brought on as some light entertainment. The no pass to Walker for a certain try was hilarious, I've seen this happen many times before of course, he's not the first player to go for glory and fail but this was particularly bad because it was so spectacularly obvious he was going to get tackled and had no chance of scoring, I think the Halifax defender was even shocked.

How did L Briscoe play? stats wise he seemed to have good game, 1 try, 1 try assist, no missed tackles, 6 tackle busts, 2 cleanbreaks, 3 offloads and 174 meters on 18 carries for 9.67 meters average. Are the stats painting a misleading picture? they look very good on the surface but havnt seen anyone mention him having a good game.

He went OK, personally I've no problems keeping him on board for next year (maybe not as first choice), if it means we spend on players elsewhere, he does need to work on his defence and catching thoug but he does seem to win the collision quite a lot for his size (a bit like his brother) and he does seem to be quick.

Once again you choose to have ago at JJB and you say "he was gassed" after 15 minutes.

So once again I have to point out to you JJB was our top tackler, and of the forwards only Dwyer and Cuthbertson made more metres and only Cuthbertson made more carries. Two of your selections that you said had "solid digs" in the second half when Halifax were "gassed" actually missed double the number of tackles made by JJB.

Not bad stats for someone who "was gassed" after 15 minutes.

Now either you have an agenda against JJB or you had a few "too many pints of Withens in the supporters club" I will give you the benefit of the doubt and go for the latter.

You can bet on it!



I did not need to be there to see his stats show he made an effective contribution and his efforts covered all of the time before Halifax ran out of stamina.

Top Tackler
Only Cuthbo and Dwyer made more metres (of the forwards)
Only Cuthbo made more carries (of the forwards)
No errors
Half the number of missed tackles of Crosby, Dwyer, Thompson or Myler

What your stats obviously didnt show were wingers pushing him off & their 7/9 running round him like he was a traffice cone.
Also he shot the line at least twice & ran straight past the ball carrier no agenda no Withens just facts.
Ive already pointed out how awful Thompson was/is.
Stats are numbers on paper & not always accurate plus they dont psint anywhere near the full picture.
Dwyer was head & shoulders above everyone other than possibly Walker anyone who was there would say so.

Personally I think Walker was the best player on the pitch by a distance with Dwyer 2nd, having said that it was Dwyers impact tgat started us scoring, Cameron Smith also was fantastic off the bench.

Agreed re-Cam Smith he has to be getting more games in 2019 imo much better BR than Ferres Walters & imo will have more impact than retaining Delaney Ablett or Jjb.

I thought he had a great game off the bench against Salford too. I really hope he has a big breakout season next year, he's got huge potential.

Cam Smith seems to be starting to fullfill his massive potential, the timing couldnt be better with the state of our backrow, they should give him a start at 13 on friday and let him play big minutes.

His involvments he had in the last two trys yday were pure class, on the run he made seconds before his own try, there was a good line ran, really good footwork and a lovely freeing of the arm, looking for an offload, with fax players draped all over him, real quality.

A reality check - look who he was playing against and the point in the game when these things happened. He needs the opportunity against top sides to see how good he really is - to date he hasn't shown or had the opportunity to show how good he is against the better sides.

The reality is he along with Dwyer were brought on to influence the game and did so when the team was huffing and puffing at best.
Of course harder tests are to come but at the very least his positive performance should give him more chances to play more minutes against better sides.

You are so vague and emotional and obviously exaggerate things.

eg: You say "wingers pushing him off" JJB missed two tackles so was that one for each winger and none for the rest?

Stats are not just numbers on paper. They are a record of the facts of the player's performances and you chose to again have a pop at one of the players with the most effect performance in the job he is asked to do ie: tackle, carry the ball up and make metres. That you regularly fail to credit him with his efforts means you are missing what is actually happening or look you at matches with a preconceived bias.

Dwyer despite his 4 missed tackles was obviously the game changer and Smith had an effective 20 minutes when Halifax had run out of gas.

So I agree that stats do not tell the full story. But they do give sufficient information to question people with an overcritical agenda who only look for faults in certain players and overlook the same or worse faults in others.

but having not seen the game I wonder how you can have an opinion, let alone argue with someone who was there. obviously marks not the only one with a so called agenda