NO and Def No ,

Full back needs to link up and have a passing game

Newman has plenty of time to improve and I think he will. In two years he should definitely be a more rounded player and might, might be a shout to replace Hardaker/ Myler at fullback. Don't forget fullback is generally the position where most teams play their best athlete because they get the ball in the hands in pspace more than in any other position. Time will tell.

Newman's a pretty potent attacking force from centre, an increasing rarity in the modern game. Makes more sense to me if you leave him there and buy a top notch FB as needed.

Craig Harrison confirmed we've got a clause in the loan deal to make the mover permanent, but we'd have to trigger it pretty quickly by the sounds of it.

Think Sutcliffe will be at Hull next season too going off what he said

The requirement to trigger early is probably to enable Leeds to plan for next year.

Which would suggest Jack's up for a move - otherwise why bother with the clause?

Just hope he strings a run of games together for us. Think that could be the only thing that scuppers it.

Seems like a really good kid too. If his debut was anything to go by we've got a good un

He’s a top player and very professional in his approach. Just been absolutely dogged by injuries this far…..

Agree with this Shabba and he’s been almost too fearless for his own good at times, shades of Bryan Robson. I spoke to JP once about him and he described him as really brave. If JP says you are brave, then that will do for me.

The big IF and unknown is his long term fitness and potential to keep playing SL for many years. I remember it looked like Johnny Lomax would never get injury free but he’s now had a great career. Not saying he is that good.

We let Golding leave in large part because him and Walker were battling it out for the FB spot.

He wants to play at FB, not in the halves, he’d have to develop parts of his game but longer term there is potential and given we have Myler and Zak , you can’t keep 3.

It could be one that looks like a mistake in 2 years time. Whether it does not will probably depend on if he can avoid further injuries.

Good post, looked great when he first broke through, but had such bad luck with injuries, I know a bit has been spoek about his passing, but thought it looked good on Sunday, gave some good passes out, certainly an improvement on Shaul.

Next year we have also signed Tex Hoy from Newcastle Knights, who is a fullback or stand off, so if Walker stays we will have Walker, Hoy, Connor and Truman fighting for those pivot positions, big improvements on Reynolds and Gale.

If I was Hull, I'd see how he goes the next 3 or so games before making a decision.

I see this as a mistake by Leeds. Shortsighted in the extreme. Hardaker is getting on, ratchford too- and without a Sinfield /burrow in the side is the wrong type of fullback anyway. walker is the future- those complaining he hasn’t developed further- well whose fault is that really????
If anyone can develop a slight young lad with skinny legs who already has the requisite skills into an excellent fullback- ermmmmm a top class slight full back with skinny legs Brett hodgson certainly can!
What made Leeds an excellent side was their exceptional homegrown talent, yes there was a particular golden era but regardless the club seems to be moving away from this and it can only be of detriment I feel.
Look at how doing that has worked out, your biggest names in tetevano and sezer have been absolute duds.
Golding meanwhile has been great at Huddersfield, he’s come off the bench and played at fullback, wing, centre, second row LF and hooker for us, it’s like having several extra players on the bench. Played with a smile on his face and brings energy and enthusiasm.

Ratchford getting on won’t hurt us too much but agree it could be a mistake

Golding is enthusiastic , but plays all over the place as he is not good enough to take any spot on a regular basis

What’s with the flurry of Huddersfield fans in here?

Anyway to say we are moving away from youth is incorrect, we’ve got a decent crop of youngsters coming through.

Walker hasn’t developed as yet because he has always been injured, I hope he can kick on and fulfil his potential it might still be with us but it’s looking unlikely

Keep telling yourself that. I’d say he’s improved massively under Watson. You say he’s not good enough but he is good enough to be picked to play in one of those positions in a top three team most weeks by one of the best coaches in the competition


He’s played 14 rounds and has the highest stats for distance covered and intensity in the league so he’s doing something right.

With many teams going for 60-80 minute hookers it’s a waste putting another out and out hooker on the bench. Having golding on our bench means if we have an injury to any single player we are instantly covered. Either golding steps straight in 1-5 or 9, 11-13 or an injury in the halves tui switches there and golding goes to FB. The props are already covered anyway. That kind of value is immense in terms of continuity and doing what our team trains to do.

They're mostly here hoping to find people criticising Sezer I think. Unfortunately for them he's not really considered a "dud" at all so we can't scratch that bitter itch for them.

As for why Walker hasn't kicked on. Well we all know why and it's all to do with him barely playing for the past few years, nothing else.

For the sake of the game I've always wanted Huddersfield to do well and increase their sp fan base, so I'm glad you're having one of your good years. Thought you should have won the cup and I hope you can avoid exiting the play offs with a whimper. That said I do find your posts a teeny bit boastful, especially when there is so little of substance to boast of. Don't recall you banging the drum last year when Watson was struggling to scrape a win. Leeds have been in serious decline since 2016 but even during the spiral we've managed to put two pots on the sideboard. Nothing to brag about, so I won't.

Sorry Jools that 60 minute hooker made me laugh, this old rhymes came to mind.

She offered her honour, He honoured her offer, and all night long he was honour and offer.

Sorry for derailing.

So in two years we will be looking for a FB - both Myler/Hardaker are in decline yet we take a short term view on a very talented player. What does it say that we would prefer a serial offender to a high quality home grown player?

It says that at this point in time he is 3rd choice in that position.

Don't forget he is only on Loan and may well come back - Jack has had an absolute nightmare with injuries and you can bet your bottom dollar if we let Hardaker go to keep Jack and he gets another injury this board would be saying why have we kept him.

Also its not just about us, Jack wants to be playing he's not going to stay around being back up for two years or even for the rest of this year, and unfortunately for Jack Hardaker and Myler right now are playing better than him

How can you tell - he has only played one game and that game he looked a lot better than anything Hardaker has shown since his return. Are we turning into Warrington - in the past we have always backed our younger players and that proved very successful why has the policy changed?

Hardaker has been pretty good.

We have also let a lot of young players go, even Jack himself forced Golding out of his position and had to move on.

Jack has looked ok in the few games he’s played this year but then was injured, again.

Turning into Warrington? Just look at the young players we do have in the squad, we’re hardly shunning home grown players in a big way.

Hull only have until next week to trigger the option of signing him thst might not happen and he is still a Leeds player. The big question for Jack is can he stay fit for any length of time, he simply hasn’t managed that in 3 or more years for us. I hope for his sake he can.

JJB had a similar injury record but we didn't palm him off and that turned out OK. We might well have young players in the squad but the likes of Thompson, Donaldson, Dwyer, Hardaker etc are getting picked now most weeks. How many young players are actually getting picked especially in the backs? Newman is suspended so we play Martin in the centre - hardly giving a young player a chance?

What salary was JJB on when he was injured? I bet not the same as Jack. and How many games had he played in his first 5 years?

I think you clearly have an issue with the Hardaker signing - which is fine that's your opinion but Id say Hardaker is the better player and again Jack is on Loan it's not made permanent just yet so he may well be back with us at some point.

I don't particularly want Jack to leave as I think he has massive potential but the fact is he has been in the first team squad for 5 years and has only played 80 games.

I listened to a podcast a few weeks ago with Craig Harrison and
Some other herberts who could talk a glass eye to sleep.
Harrison was talking in generic terms about A coach who has players on big
Contracts that he can’t shift but is determined to make changes and therefore looks at moving on other players he values more highly.

You didn’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to guess who he might be talking about.

For next year, we will have lost Mellor, broadbent, and Bodene.
I’d also expect Briscoe and Dwyer to go. IF we also lost Walker and Sutcliffe with likely Zak and Sangerre coming in then we should still have a fair bit of cap to play with.