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| And how he makes money with a personality like wallpaper paste is remarkable.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"And how he makes money with a personality like wallpaper paste is remarkable.'"
You can say a lot of things about JJB but lack of personality isn't one of them
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| Quote ="christopher"You can say a lot of things about JJB but lack of personality isn't one of them'"
I can't watch rugby AM, simply because I find JJB and Simmons embarrassing to listen to.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I can't watch rugby AM, simply because I find JJB and Simmons embarrassing to listen to.'"
I don't know how Simmons actually has managed to get work as a presenter, he is terrible
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| Quote ="christopher"You can say a lot of things about JJB but lack of personality isn't one of them'"
I meant Simmons chief.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Whatever that role is it has to add value otherwise its a waste of money which could be invested more fruitfully. This is a business after all not a home for every ex player.
The only person making any money out of rugby AM is Simmons - the viewing figures are really low so that is not a viable option for JJB longer-term.'"
The danger is the club becomes a "Donkey Sanctuary" for all the ex-players. Let's give Sinny a job, Rob a job, Chev a job.....
What job can we find for JJB, Carl, Danny Mags (when he calls it a day at HKR).
If we simply keep old players on where do the fresh ideas come from?
These players have served the club well and have been rewarded handsomely but we don't owe them a living.
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| Quote ="ant1"The danger is the club becomes a "Donkey Sanctuary" for all the ex-players. Let's give Sinny a job, Rob a job, Chev a job.....
What job can we find for JJB, Carl, Danny Mags (when he calls it a day at HKR).
If we simply keep old players on where do the fresh ideas come from?
These players have served the club well and have been rewarded handsomely but we don't owe them a living.'"
Dave Furner (although technically he is also an ex player)
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| Quote ="ant1"The danger is the club becomes a "Donkey Sanctuary" for all the ex-players. Let's give Sinny a job, Rob a job, Chev a job.....
What job can we find for JJB, Carl, Danny Mags (when he calls it a day at HKR).
If we simply keep old players on where do the fresh ideas come from?
These players have served the club well and have been rewarded handsomely but we don't owe them a living.'"
It is a long-term way to get around the salary cap by promising them a post-playing career if they stay with the club long-term as a player... Those title-winning teams certainly were full of players who could have left for more.
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| Quote ="ant1"The danger is the club becomes a "Donkey Sanctuary" for all the ex-players. Let's give Sinny a job, Rob a job, Chev a job.....
What job can we find for JJB, Carl, Danny Mags (when he calls it a day at HKR).
If we simply keep old players on where do the fresh ideas come from?
These players have served the club well and have been rewarded handsomely but we don't owe them a living.'"
That`s been my worry since Sinfield took over and he has certainly not eased my concerns.
You also forgot to add Lowes to the list of mates he has found a job for.
JP might not be far off either in some capacity.
Is Furner bringing any of his old backroom staff with him or does he have to settle for what`s left at the club?
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| Quote ="chapylad"That`s been my worry since Sinfield took over and he has certainly not eased my concerns.
You also forgot to add Lowes to the list of mates he has found a job for.
JP might not be far off either in some capacity.
Is Furner bringing any of his old backroom staff with him or does he have to settle for what`s left at the club?'"
Whose mates? Are you talking about sinny finding jobs for mates? If so, sonny did not give any job to Lowes, they were appointed at the same time weren't they?
It doesn't look as though Furner is bringing over a backroom staff based on what has been said so far and chev/lowes will provide his support which I agree is far from satisfactory.
As for JJB getting an off field role it depends what it is. I would assume it is something media based which he has experience in. I would be both surprised and disappointed if it was in a coaching capacity.
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| Nobody on here has any idea about the abilities, or not, of the coaching staff. Lowes has been recommended by countless players for his work as an assistant and there's no reason to think Furner isn't going to be happy with the team he inherits - Sinfield has had plenty of chance to change it with the other backroom moves but has decided not to.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Nobody on here has any idea about the abilities, or not, of the coaching staff. Lowes has been recommended by countless players for his work as an assistant and there's no reason to think Furner isn't going to be happy with the team he inherits - Sinfield has had plenty of chance to change it with the other backroom moves but has decided not to.'"
I have seen nothing from lowes record to suggest he is an above average coach. I have seen nothing from his time at Leeds to suggest he is an above average coach.
I don't know him. I have never played under him but I'm pretty sure him and Chev are nobody's idea of a dream team.
If Furner stays past the first year I would expect to see changes in his support staff.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Whose mates? Are you talking about sinny finding jobs for mates? If so, sonny did not give any job to Lowes, they were appointed at the same time weren't they?
It doesn't look as though Furner is bringing over a backroom staff based on what has been said so far and chev/lowes will provide his support which I agree is far from satisfactory.
As for JJB getting an off field role it depends what it is. I would assume it is something media based which he has experience in. I would be both surprised and disappointed if it was in a coaching capacity.'"
If Sinfield wanted to get rid of Lowes, Walker, Burrow from the coaching staff he would have done.
If he wanted to move on the likes of JJB and Ablett he would have done that too.
He either thinks they have something to offer or he is doing them a favour.
He also sees something in Sutcliffe that I have yet to see.
But it is on his head now so let`s see if he is right.
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| Wayne Bennett seems to rate Lowes, but I’m sure all the experts on here know better.
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| Quote ="Blocker75"Wayne Bennett seems to rate Lowes, but I’m sure all the experts on here know better.'"
Well if Wayne has brought him in for a three match series he must be the man to pull Leeds up by the boot straps thoughout the next three seasons then.
Find me one fan who is genuinely pleased to have lowes on the coaching staff. That doesn't mean it isn't right, we are just fans. But as an outsider looking in we have a pretty uninspiring support staff for Furner which undeniably smells of jobs for the boys.
It may be a bootroom style masterstroke, who knows. But I maintain most people are underwhelmed.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"I meant Simmons chief.'"
Sorry mis read! And I couldn’t agree more!
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| Quote ="Fallon"Well if Wayne has brought him in for a three match series he must be the man to pull Leeds up by the boot straps thoughout the next three seasons then.
Find me one fan who is genuinely pleased to have lowes on the coaching staff. That doesn't mean it isn't right, we are just fans. But as an outsider looking in we have a pretty uninspiring support staff for Furner which undeniably smells of jobs for the boys.
It may be a bootroom style masterstroke, who knows. But I maintain most people are underwhelmed.'"
You seem to speak for most people and all fans. Could you provide some proof please?
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"You seem to speak for most people and all fans. Could you provide some proof please?'"
Just read the posts about lowes or the posts from when McDermott was sacked and lowes brought in.
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| Lowes's record as an assistant involves three grand final wins. He wasn't involved in 2016. I don't know what people are expecting to see from him. Speak to the players, not the fans.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Lowes's record as an assistant involves three grand final wins. He wasn't involved in 2016. I don't know what people are expecting to see from him. Speak to the players, not the fans.'"
He was involved in 2016. He was involved towards the end of the season, and before the bottom eights. Suddenly the team started playing.
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| no idea if he's a good coach. he was a crap head coach but that's a whole different game.
anyway furner will call the shots no doubt
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| Indeed, his head coach resume is not pretty. Binned by Warrington very quickly, a year at Carnegie, a couple of years at a relegated Bradford.
He may have been at clubs when they have won things but you can't say how much of those trophy wins were down to him. Given his lack of success as a head coach I, personally, just me, in my own single opinion, would suggest he really isn't good enough.
We will see this time next year whether Furner makes his own changes.
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| I’ve got no idea if James Lowes is a good coach or not. He comes across as a bit of a knob whenever I’ve seen him interviewed, but he might think the same about me if we met.
I remember he used to hate Leeds when he played for Hunslet, and again when he played for the Bulls. I’m ambivalent about him being in the coaching team now. Furner will get whoever he wants in due course.
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| Oledzki went well for the knights this morning, fantastic workrate and some good charges, best forward on the pitch for me. Handley was pretty good at up against Nene McDonald, he went off injured after setting up Walkers try, looked like a head knock. Apart from the try, Walker had one of them games where nothing went right, he'l want to forget that one in a hurry.
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| I agree, Oledzki wouldn't have played a game in at least 6-8 weeks and in that heat & humidity I thought he was really strong. Hard to believe he is still only 19.
What a great experience for him and the team.
Walker made a few errors and looked a bit rusty but he'll be fine, he's class imo.
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