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| Quote ="Illustrating B McD's opinion, Him"...“There was enough good people on the field to be able to win that game,” he stressed...'"
Yes Brian ... but you had them in the wrong positions.
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| On the radio he also said he didn't think we were awful ,personally i thought were abysmal apart from the last 10 minutes.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Does it annoy anyone else that the thread title says 'For the live of...' and not 'love of'...?
It's been bugging me for over 2 years now.'"
56 pages, 2 years and I never noticed.
Now, every time I look, it irritates me.
Thanks Wheels.
Thanks.
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| It irritates me too. Glad someone else has piped up
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| Quote ="Wheels"Does it annoy anyone else that the thread title says 'For the live of...' and not 'love of'...?
It's been bugging me for over 2 years now.'"
Two options:
1. Just live and let love
2. Delete the motherf...er
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| Quote ="Him"[iMcDermott said: “Credit to Hull KR, they didn’t let us play.
“I didn’t think we played all night. I didn’t think we looked in the game for the majority of it, it was only the final stages when we decided to be a bit more attacking and wake up.
“I’d give Hull KR a lot of credit, right from the off they had some intent defensively and shut down pretty much everything we tried.”
McDermott refused to blame Rhinos’ lengthy injury list or any controversial decisions for Rhinos’ defeat.
“There was enough good people on the field to be able to win that game,” he stressed.
“I don’t think we had enough intent or energy for the first 65 minutes, which is what we will look at.
“There were some positives, it’s not the poorest performance I’ve seen, but it just lacked energy."[/i'"
This, to me, says it all.
He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".
Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.
But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.
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| a year with no cup finals would put pressure on him from a money point of view
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| Quote ="Mr Scruff"This, to me, says it all.
He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".
Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.
But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.'"
Fully agree with you. I've been saying the same thing, but the stock response is 2 GF's on the bounce. For the players we have, we're proportionately one if the worst attacking teams. Some times I wonder what they work on in the week because our attack rarely looks fluid with people hitting the ball at the right time
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| Quote ="Mr Scruff"This, to me, says it all.
He might as well have said "we were poor and I've no idea why. I don't have a clue how to get my team to play well. I've been out-coached and out-thought. But let's look at the positives".
Under McDermott we've become a boring team. There's often no apparent plan in attack, no ideas when we're near the opponent's line. Flat, predictable, tired performances.
But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.'"
I don't think it says that. I think he was mainly right and it backs up what most people said on here post game. We were lethargic for 65 mins then looked dangerous.
I wouldn't class that as "being out-coached" since I didn't see anything exceptional from Hull KR or anything exceptionally lacking from us tactically.
You say it yourself - "flat, predictable, tired performances".
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| Quote ="D4mo78"Fully agree with you. I've been saying the same thing, but the stock response is 2 GF's on the bounce. For the players we have, we're proportionately one if the worst attacking teams. Some times I wonder what they work on in the week because our attack rarely looks fluid with people hitting the ball at the right time'"
On paper I still think we have one of the best teams in the league, not 4th or 5th.
There's not enough depth to our attacking line. Too often poeple coming onto the ball are too flat, meaning there's no momentum which makes it easy for the defenders. There's also too many times when passes go to people who don't expect it meaning they start from a stand still and have to work out what on earth to do with the ball.
If these aren't the responsibility of the coaching team to iron out I don't know what is.
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| Quote ="Him"I don't think it says that. I think he was mainly right and it backs up what most people said on here post game. We were lethargic for 65 mins then looked dangerous.
I wouldn't class that as "being out-coached" since I didn't see anything exceptional from Hull KR or anything exceptionally lacking from us tactically.
You say it yourself - "flat, predictable, tired performances".'"
We only looked dangerous when the game was pretty much gone and Hull KR had knackered themselves outplaying us.
He was out-coached though. He even said himself that pretty much everything he tried was shut down by Hull KR - because McDermott has no plan B and is therefore very predictable. Meanwhile HUll KR's best player in my opinion was Michael Dobson, an obvious danger player who was allowed to run the game for his side.
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| Quote ="Mr Scruff"
But while Sinfield says he's the best coach he's ever worked with and while McDermott keeps Hetherington sweet I can't see when he'll go.'"
Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.
The covering his ass bit meaning he is towing the club line, and as captain, supporting the clubs decisions. Hence why he has done it for each coach appointed he has played under.
Edit: The last sentence was for this unable to think outside of a few words, and hence ensure no avoidance of doubt.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.'"
Let's remind ourselves again shall we? From the Guardian 29/9/12:
Quote "He's the best coach I've had," said Sinfield, who twice lifted the Super League trophy under Tony Smith, now the coach of Warrington. "His mix of man-management and his game plan is second to none. Since Brian Mac has been in charge, we've been in every final so far. I love playing for him. I can't praise him enough, I've so much respect for him and I hope he's here for a very long time.'"
Sinfield must have a giant ass.
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| Quote ="Fetlar"Let's remind ourselves again shall we? From the Guardian 29/9/12:
Sinfield must have a giant ass.'"
Why did we need to remind ourselves. Like I said Sinfield has repeated the same thing for each coach since Murray.
His ass won't be as big as McDermotts, not when you include you hanging out of it at every second.
You need to give it a rest with the defend at all costs and wake up a bit.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Sinfield has said that with every coach he's had at Leeds. If you were appointed tomorrow, you would be the new best. It's called covering your ass.'"
To be fair mate I remember Sinfield saying he enjoyed playing for previous coaches but I can't ever recall him saying they were the best he's ever worked with.
What he said about McDermott goes way beyond covering his ass.
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| What rational person would ever think Sinfield had any need to cover his ass anyway?
There are certain people that you take what they say at face value, people that have real credibility. Kevin Sinfield is one.
Then there is Gotcha.
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| Quote ="G1"What rational person would ever think Sinfield had any need to cover his ass anyway?
There are certain people that you take what they say at face value, people that have real credibility. Kevin Sinfield is one.
Then there is Gotcha.'"
What is it with you and the inability to read before jumping in?
Covering his ass was a figure of speech. In that he is the captain. The captain will always tow the line (support) his superior. Look back on his comments about all the previous coaches, especially about three months in to Bluey's reign.
HTH
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| Quote ="Gotcha"What is it with you and the inability to read before jumping in?
Covering his ass was a figure of speech. In that he is the captain. The captain will always tow the line (support) his superior. Look back on his comments about all the previous coaches, especially about three months in to Bluey's reign.
HTH'"
Maybe it's your inability to type what you think you mean. Covering his ass is a simple term which is completely different to toeing the line or supporting his superior.
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| Quote ="finglas"Maybe it's your inability to type what you think you mean. Covering his ass is a simple term which is completely different to toeing the line or supporting his superior.'"
Put the tongue away, and grow up.
Whatever, it doesn't change that I am right what I put.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Put the tongue away, and grow up.
Whatever, it doesn't change that I am right what I put.'"
Firstly I'm not the one typing something then changing the meaning when what I have typed is questioned.
I am of the belief that the quote attributed to Sinfield goes a lot further than the generally bland statements of players about their coaches. Whilst I would question parts of his statement when looking at performances, the strength of the statement makes me think that Sinfield is whole hearted in his appraisal.
Although if I assume that Sinfield has your ability to communicate what you intended to say then what he said could have meant anything.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Put the tongue away, and grow up.
Whatever, it doesn't change that I am right what I put.'"
Yes, you were so confident in what you put that you've been back and edited it to explain that "covering his ass" meant something other than what anyone else would have thought it meant.
Well, that's what I think you've put, you'll probably say different.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Yes, you were so confident in what you put that you've been back and edited it to explain that "covering his ass" meant something other than what anyone else would have thought it meant.'"
Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
You haven't even read the edit at the bottom.
Oh well, it's not as if I really give a gnats chuff, you should at least know that by now.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
You haven't even read the edit at the bottom.
Oh well, it's not as if I really give a gnats chuff, you should at least know that by now.'"
I don't think I post enough on here to be classified as a member of a clique, but I'm sure that your interpretation of what you meant covers whatever you may or may not have said. I took exception to you suggesting that the most successful captain of Leeds ever had made the comments quoted as an ass covering exercise. I totally disagreed with that suggestion and held you to account for it. For this I have been told to "grow up" and been accused of being a member of a clique.
there are many discussions where I could post as part of a clique, when you are having your regular "debates" (sic) with G1 and others, but I choose not to get into these "debates" as they tend to turn me off RLFans, much as I ignore the agenda driven posts of some on here.
If the fact that I disagree with your comments upsets you then so be it but you attempts to put me down, tend to say a lot more about your goodself than my original comment.
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| Quote ="finglas"I don't think I post enough on here to be classified as a member of a clique, but I'm sure that your interpretation of what you meant covers whatever you may or may not have said. I took exception to you suggesting that the most successful captain of Leeds ever had made the comments quoted as an ass covering exercise. I totally disagreed with that suggestion and held you to account for it. For this I have been told to "grow up" and been accused of being a member of a clique.'"
If by dissagree you mean that you feel Sinfields comments were sincere and that he really did think McDermott the best, then I will apologise to you.
If you dissagree because of some childish agenda driven interpretation then obviously I stick by my comments.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Thank you for proving exactly my point about this little clique.
'" Just because you think everyone is out to get you, it doesn't make you paranoid eh fella?
I've noticed a trend on here recently. If anyone disagrees with you, they're a fooking idiot. If anyone agrees with a poster who disagrees with you (which happens quite a lot amazingly), they're a bum licker or in a clique.
Perhaps you may wish to pause and reflect. You've been told by many different posters on here during the last few weeks about your tendancy to type something and claim you meant something different. I am pleased it's not just me. It's been posters that I have never met and do not know. Posters whose tongues have never been near my anus.
I think you need to tone down your aggression and maybe just proof read what you're typing before you hit submit, then you might have less issues and more credibility. I am sure you can put accross your meaning articulately enough during oral exchanges but you need to work harder on your written dialogue.
Just a freindly heads up.
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